The “Hobbit” cast is looking good. Really good. Oooooooh yeah, realllllly good.

Maybe too good?

When rumors began to swirl almost immediately after “Return of the King” left the theaters that a “Hobbit” film was inevitable, I made a prediction: There is no way they can sell a film with 13 Gimli-faced dwarves.

Mark my words,” I grumbled, “you are going to see HOT DWARVES in this movie. Think of the fan girls!!!

And it seems I may be right.

When you look at the success of the “Lord of the Rings” movies, a good portion of it can definitely be attributed to die-hard Tolkien fans who unreservedly embraced Peter Jackson’s vision.

But an even more significant part of the audience was made up of people – let’s face it, women – who really liked the eye-candy. From Legolas to Aragorn to the adorable hobbits to the nameless elf who became an internet sensation: Figwit.

And let’s not forget Boromir, Faramir and Eomer fans.

But… not too many Gimli fans, are there? You won’t find a lot of Gimli websites or fan-fiction out there. There’s just not any ‘hotness’ quotient in our short lumpy bearded friend.

Sooooooooo… let’s take a close look at “The Hobbit,” shall we?

The primary characters in the book are… dwarves. A baker’s dozen of short, lumpy, bearded dwarves.

Sure, there’s Bilbo. And yes, Beorn and Bard have promise. But the ratio of Hot to Not isn’t great.

Now, there were loads of issues and drama that came with getting the film off the ground. It seemed as if it would never happen. But one of the key things the project had to recommend it was the insane success of the LOTR trilogy… which just had to guarantee similar audience appeal for “The Hobbit.” Right?

Except for those pesky dwarves.

If you’re a Hollywood studio honcho and are salivating at the chance to take a ride on the Tolkien juggernaut, I’ll bet you and your marketing and merchandising teams are taking a look at the character list and thinking…

“We need hot dwarves.”

“Lose the beards, lose the lumps. Hot dwarves, the hotter the better. We’ll get a wholesome, ‘aw-shucks’ Bilbo, some bad-boy sexy Men, and then AS MANY HOT ACTORS WE CAN FIND for the Dwarves.”

And so they did. One after another, each sexier than the last.

Here’s where the Tolkien purist in me has a heart attack. SEE?? I TOLD YOU!!! HOT DWARVES? HOT DWARVES?!?!?

This is wrong, right? It was bad enough when Frodo, Pippin and Merry popped up in LOTR looking like slender, pink-cheeked cherubs (Sorry Sean, you really looked like Sam to me) instead of Tolkien’s rotund, hairy-toed Weebles. Tolkien was doing somersaults in his grave.

But dwarves? As short, lumpy and bearded as Gimli was, Tolkien intended him to look that way. And so, “NO! DOWN WITH HOT DWARVES,” we say. It’s an outrage! A travesty! Nooooooo…

Except… wellllll, Gimli was really short, lumpy and bearded. With Richard Armitage and Aidan Turner and James Nesbitt and Robert Kazinsky and Graham McTavish cast, I’m not sure I want any of them to look like real dwarves.

When it comes down to it, I’m a purist but I’m a red-blooded girl, too. Armitage alone would get me into the theater. But… put Richard in ‘Gimli’ prosthetics and, well, as superficial as it sounds that would not be as much fun. He’s a wonderful actor; I’m a huge fan of “Spooks.” But I want to SEE him and Aidan Turner and James Nesbitt and Robert Kazinsky and Graham McTavish, etc.

I reckon there are 10,000,000,000 other women in the world who would agree with me on this, and that, presumably, is what determines the film studio’s choice. I know I’m contradicting myself. Writing this I came to realize I believe: 1) HOT DWARVES are wrong, and 2) hiring gorgeous men and not letting them BE HOT is also wrong.

Right? I mean, wrong? Hmmm.

Back me up on this, ladies! Hot or not – which should it be?

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Maegwen is a long time senior staffer and sometimes satirist. She can often be found in Barliman’s Chatroom and is our resident film grumpus.

Comments

  1. Daredevil

    Whilst i accept the premise of “Hot Dwarves” to be valid for maybe 2 or 3 of the group – the entire theory falls down when you look at the rest of them. There are the likes of Ken Stott and John Callen who are both surely in their late 50’s, and the likes of Stephen Hunter and Mark Hadlow who i’m sure would barely consider themselves to be “buff”, and then the likes of Peter Hambleton and Adam Brown who might best be described as “unusual” looking, rather than “hot”.

  2. tin

    Nice photoshopping… that is hilarious!

  3. Mel

    Ok, now that I have fallen off the couch twice from laughing…um hot dwarfs or not hot dwarfs? Remember there will be elves (think Mirkwood) and possibly some hot looking rangers, elves, and well regular men if they show the battle of the five armies. As for the dwarfs, guess we will see what we will see.

  4. Voronwe

    Dwarves should not be even thought of as hot. If PJ gives us 13 pretty boy dwarves, then he’s lost his mind. Its not like the Hobbit is a beloved book that’s sold millions of copies, so he better do everything he can to make this movie sell.

    • Quoth Wikipedia: “While reliable figures are difficult to obtain, estimated global sales of The Hobbit run between 35 and 100 million copies since 1937.”

      • Voronwe

        Exactly. Why then would he feel like he needs to make this movie appeal more to teenage girls? There are enough fans of The Hobbit out there to warrant that the film will at least be moderately successful. Most likely more successful.

        • Just out of curiosity, what makes you think all those female fans were teenagers? I went to many screenings of LOTR, and teenagers comprised maybe 20% of the female audience. The much greater majority were adult women. It’s an enduring and exhausted myth that adult women do not enjoy LOTR, whether books or movies. Let’s lay that one to rest once and for all.

  5. Orc

    This is probably the WORST idea ever. There needs to be continuity with the moria dwarves. The Hobbit/LOTR isn’t twilight, and not supposed to be marketed to young immature teen girls. FAIL

  6. Orc

    This is probably the WORST idea ever. There needs to be continuity with the moria dwarves. The Hobbit/LOTR isn’t twilight, and not supposed to be marketed to young immature teen girls. FAIL

  7. Orc

    This is probably the WORST idea ever. There needs to be continuity with the moria dwarves. The Hobbit/LOTR isn’t twilight, and not supposed to be marketed to young immature teen girls. FAIL

  8. Linde

    I think there are enough older dwarves in the mix that they’ll balance each other out. Maybe the idea is that younger dwarves are hotness, and they become lumpier and hairier as they get older. Gimli was older, so he was fairly lumpy and hairy. Really old dwarves are probably unrecognizable.

    • Sandelwood

      And yet, Thorin, who is supposed to be the oldest of the group, is cast young and hot.

  9. Araweniel

    I think they should stay true to Tolkien, as well as stay consistent with the LOTR films. This story is not about sex appeal…

  10. Araweniel

    I think they should stay true to Tolkien, as well as stay consistent with the LOTR films. This story is not about sex appeal…

  11. Araweniel

    I think they should stay true to Tolkien, as well as stay consistent with the LOTR films. This story is not about sex appeal…

  12. Tarodragon

    I have, in fact, had exactly the same thoughts.

    Linde said: I think there are enough older dwarves in the mix that they’ll balance each other out. Maybe the idea is that younger dwarves are hotness, and they become lumpier and hairier as they get older. Gimli was older, so he was fairly lumpy and hairy. Really old dwarves are probably unrecognizable.

    I think that’s a reasonable way to go.

    • Dwarfiness before hotness

      I think it sounds like a transparent excuse to insert “hotness” into the equation. 

  13. Cd1301

    Not all Dwarves were as Old and Grumby as Gimli…Fili& Kili were Young Dwarves…etc. The Hobbit Movies will be Fine it we can see Young Dwarves? Okay with yo. Nunclcharlie

  14. ohheyy_monet

    Well, technically, Frodo was supposed to have an elvish sort of look to him, despite him being a hobbit, so I can understand that.

    And why can’t their be hot dwarves? I’m sure all the lady dwarves would like some eye-candy! All joking aside, though… Men come in all shapes and sizes, so why do dwarves all have to look EXACTLY the same? Some dwarves can be a little taller or shorter. Some can be thinner and some can be fatter. Some can be ruggedly handsome under their dwarf beards, some can be very dwarfy under their beards. That being said, all the dwarves need super Gimli beards, though. At least most of them. Maybe not Bombur. I don’t picture him with a beard. But Thorin NEEDS a beard.

  15. Sandelwood

    As a woman and a self identified fangirl, I agree. I am fine with a few of the Dwarves (namely Fili and Kili, since they were meant to be the youngest) being young and hot. But Richard Armitage is way off the mark, I don’t care how popular and actor he is. Thorin is old (OLD. 200ish), grumpy, and past his prime, and they’ve cast him younger than several of the other Dwarf actors. I truly dislike using an actor this young and sexy for this part, even if they make him old through make-up. Thorin does not have to be sexy to be liked (ask anyone if they still liked Gimli even though he wasn’t as hot as Legs). What’s the point? Hire someone old. Brian Cox would be my ultimate Thorin, and I was truly excited when he was rumoured a year ago.

    It doesn’t have to be about sex appeal. There will be Elves and Men for fangirling. Let the Dwarves be properly Dwarvish.

    Pete has cast leading men too young before in his films, more than once, with stellar recasting (where would the world be without Viggo?). I’m banking on this being the third time around.

    • Well on a purely sensible level, the role will probably demand a lot of the Thorin actor physically. Someone older than Armitage just couldn’t manage it.

  16. Honestly, I don’t care. Since I don’t and never have expected the films to be exactly like the books, and since I care much more about good acting than about whether an actor looks exactly like the character description, I just don’t put that much store in it. Most of the changes in the first trilogy didn’t bother me, and given that I’ve never been able to get through “The Hobbit”, I expect the movie to be an improvement. I’m looking forward to it, and if it’s got good-looking guys in it, so much the better.

  17. Araweniel

    I am a young woman in my twenties, and I do not care for any ‘eyecandy’ to get me through a story that has intrinsic value to it. I would hope that any true Tolkien fan, be they male or female, would feel the same way. =)

  18. American Jill

    It doesn’t matter if they LOOK hot; just listening to Richard Armitage speak the lines is HOT to me. Have you heard his adverts for the new Hyundai? Makes me want to buy one. And his reading of Georgette Heyer’s audiobooks…delightfully impassioned. Thorin will be one HOT dwarf regardless of costume!

  19. Dwight

    I don’t think it’s out of the question for some of the Dwarves in the campaign to be handsome and kingly ~ doesn’t the actor cast as Thorin remind you just a little bit of Theoden? They must, however, be bearded! If they can balance handsome with bearded, I’ve got no problem.

  20. CCC

    I loved Gimli! I loved the character, and I loved the actor. Despite the occasional enjoyment a good looking guy provides, I prefer a character to a good looker any day!
    I hope these so-called “pretty boys” don’t mind suiting up, because I would be very disappointed if the dwarves looked like the elves.
    PS: I’m a girl – an over-the-hill one, but girl nonetheless. 😀

  21. Guest

    Honestly, looks should never be the end all choice. A good director will choose what works as far as acting chops and then appearance as it relates to the text. If the text requires them to be rugged and handsome or otherwise, okay, but if not, you are not breaking from the original intent. One should never subdue to the pressure of fans or marketing for the sake of this, the story should always lead the way.

  22. JuneauJack

    Perhaps PJ will get Armitage on the set and realize he simply miscast Thorin. Then he’ll find the right actor to become the role ala Viggo with Aragorn.

    • I doubt it. Richard Armitage is definitely no Stuart Townsend.

    • MCurran

      I don’t think it was Richard’s looks that cast him in this…give him due credit for his talents. This man has an incredible voice and really do not think Peter J sat and thought…oh, lets get an incredibly *hot* looking guy to play Thorin. Please, few people outside GB really know who Richard is and doubt that’s why he was chosen as per market value to draw audience or as eye candy. I thought Viggo sucked as Aragon and cringed every time I heard that poor man speak.

    • Armitage was doubtfully cast for his looks. He’s a very talented actor with a very expressive voice and eyes. That is more likely why he was cast – as there probably will be prosthetics it will be necessary for him to get a lot cross with part of his “real face” covered(yes as I’ve already admitted I’ll miss seeing his hot self). Not to mention he was cast by men who most likely would not be sitting there thinking “Hey he’s hot”. LOL

  23. Lukas

    Indeed, it would be funny and stupid at the same time, to see a bunch of hairless dwarves fighting their way up to the Lonely Mountain. Nevertheless I think the biggest challenge for the movie writers (Sir Peter, etc) must be the new represantation of the dwarven race in the series. For the LOTR movies Gimli was much more of a comic relief. Yes, he looked just like an ordinary dwarf (what ever that might be…) but I cannot remember from reading the book that Gloin’s son was such a laughable character. Whoever only watched the movies must be under the impression that dwarves as a race might be good fighters but apart from that they are far from noble.
    I think that we can all agree that Sir Peter cannot make another movie (or two) where more than a dozen of these characters appear. As I trust the man, I assume that the script will alter most people’s perception on dwarves. We will see tragic characters dwarves, strong dwarves, noble dwarves and the aforementioned “comic relief dwarf”. I’m not looking forward to seeing any beardless dwarves either but I think people at WETA have talent enough to create dwarves that look true to the source and fulfill the basic criteria of beauty.
    After all, Tolkien never stated that dwarves are ugly beings that can’t drink beer.

  24. Oh but with Richard Armitage – those eyes, that voice … he’ll be hot no matter how short, lumpy and bearded they dress him up to be. 🙂 And also, for once, he’ll get to show people that he’s not just eye candy, but actually a superb actor.

    I think I’d be a bit miffed if they made the dwarves not Gimli-like but rather trying to make them, y’know, hot. Because then the whole point of them being dwarves fail. Dressing up gorgeous blokes as dwarves, as odd as that seems, I say, bring it on. We’ll see how it goes.

  25. Okay, I’m female and I love Aragorn/Legolas/Boromir/Figwit as much as the next girl but let the dwarves be dwarves. I love Gimli too! Did I think he was the most gorgeous man ever (oh Aragorn…)? No- but I still think he is a great character! I actually have a fish name Gimli, at this moment and time. I read the Hobbit and I love those dwarves too. They don’t need to be hot. They can be dwarves. Its like Orc says- this isn’t Twilight.

  26. babelpdx

    Umm, look at John Callen (Oin)!!! He is an ideal looking Dwarf for the Hobbit! Give Pete some credit…

  27. babelpdx

    I am really excited that James Nesbitt is one of the dwarves! He is going to be fantastic! I definitely stand behind the cast picks!

  28. Camizzle222

    Let’s face it: it’s all about money. Hot guys sell, shorty, lump dwarfs do not

  29. pumuckl

    I am one of those few people who are not die-hard fans of LOTR. I have seen all three, fine, they were good and entertaining, but nothing to make me watch them once again. I was not facinated by Aragorn or Legolas either – I’m a woman, perfectly capable of falling for hot actors, but hotness is not enough for me, they have to be good at what they are doing, and these two were not….. very mediocre both, unfortunately, and still worse, both too much aware of their own appeal.
    As for Richard Armitage, however, I would say that whoever casts him for whatever role, it cannot be a wrong decision. I mean, have you seen him act? He acts with all his body, gestures, facial expressions, voice… you almost forget that he is acting. He gives true deepness and personality to his characters. So mark my words, disguised as an old dwarf or hot and young, he will be terrific and convincing.
    I would vote for letting him be hot 🙂 and see what he makes of this difficult role: that would show his talent for sure!

    • Rita

      Viggo did an AMAZING job as Aragorn ! It wasn’t at all about how ” hot ” he was , he committed 100% to the character and definitely was terrific !! He did act ” with all his body, gestures, facial expressions, voice… you almost forget that he is acting. He gives true deepness and personality to his characters. ” He’s an amazing actor , the best one out there without a doubt . I find it really odd that you thought he was ” mediocre ” , because I personally was inspired by how much effort he put into this movie and how he made us really relate to Aragorn , and how he felt every single time ; and after having done my share of reading , it turned out that through the entire time they were filming , he passed his free time as Aragorn and he didn’t even notice when Peter Jackson referred to him as Aragorn for an entire half hour conversation . But I guess it really does depend on the person watching 🙂

      • Rivendell_lh

        So glad you stepped up, Rita. I agree with your posting. Viggo did an amazing job as Aragorn. He IS Aragorn. Perhaps someone who is not steeped in Tolkien, books and all, can not experience these films as deeply and completely as the fans who have read “The Hobbit” and LOTR several times and watch the films, enjoying all the nuance and detail that are there on repeat viewings. Hot or not dwarves? Really can’t say. I just have trust that PJ will honor Tolkien and give us two more great films.

      • Rivendell_lh

        So glad you stepped up, Rita. I agree with your posting. Viggo did an amazing job as Aragorn. He IS Aragorn. Perhaps someone who is not steeped in Tolkien, books and all, can not experience these films as deeply and completely as the fans who have read “The Hobbit” and LOTR several times and watch the films, enjoying all the nuance and detail that are there on repeat viewings. Hot or not dwarves? Really can’t say. I just have trust that PJ will honor Tolkien and give us two more great films.

      • Anon

        you go girl! i <3 aragorn in the LOTR films. :D!!

  30. ereg

    Just put the prosthetics on them and see what happens. No hotties, but pleasant or cute dwarves are fine, but they must be DWARVES. I never was turned on by any of the dwarf actors anyway, so I’m not really concerned. I’m sure Peter Jackson won’t be that absurd to put pure hotties as dwarves. That would be retarded, in essence. I have total faith in PJ.

  31. Diane

    Lets face it Dwarves are not hunks according to Tolkien and I agree, that is the way he presented them.

  32. Jens_arni_leo

    If this becomes Hobbit/Twilight, then they can eat the script! Come on we all saw how the dwarves looked like in LOTR and most will probably be based on that but the main problem will be sublte differences in appearences of the individual dwarfs.
    While your Armitage argument is flawed! Thórin is an older dwarf and compared to Gimli has a long grey beard!

  33. Anonymous

    Look hot? Those guys are going to BE hot. Their costumes and makeup will get pretty darned uncomfortable if the temperature rises!

  34. Annabelle

    I’m surprised there were any dwarves at all, given Gimli’s potential for “hotness”. If he, and all like him, were all that the lady dwarves had to look forward to when contemplating a sexy encounter, then the race was truly doomed! (Which is probably why we never see any, obviously.)

    Thorin may be old but he was young, strong, vigorous and in his prime once; a heroic, kingly warrior imbued with a fiery inspiration – especially when he earned his name, plus the fact that like many a knight before him, his enemy was a dragon! I hope this is what we get – and Richard Armitage in such a role is a perfect choice. The integrity of the tale will not be compromised but this is a fairytale, after all. A princely, handsome dwarf is just fine. There will be plenty of stereotypical dwarves abounding, I’m sure, to please the purists, so a little “hot” seasoning added to the mix will leaven the lumpen doughiness of dwarvenkind. It’ll be wonderful, I’m sure, true to the tale and utterly beautiful. Jackson knows what he’s doing – and nobody honours Tolkien better than he in what is delivered.

  35. Renee Pierce

    Stay true to Tolkien. This is NOT a story about hot guys. I’m female and love eye candy just as much as the next gal, but this is not the movie for it. I can do without hot dwarves…just tell the true Tolkien story!

  36. Theseekerbabe

    As a fangirl, I think that the look and feel of Middle Earth dwarves is rather iconic. Tolkien unquestionably set the standard. Therefor, I feel that having ‘hot dwarves’ detracts from the look and feel that I am looking forward to seeing. Good-looking is okay, but I hope they will still be depicted as short and hairy and generally oafish. Dwarves should be dwarves, and Hollywood should not be afraid to embrace that. Need I remind anyone that Gimli was one of the most popular characters in the LotR movies….? This isn’t just about pleasing the fangirls—the real money to be made from Middle Earth comes from the people who were fans even before the LotR movies were released. There will be plenty of other movies being released around that time that girls will go to see just for the hot guys—-why does LotR need to be that way when it has such a built-in audience as is? We LIKE the classics; that’s why LotR did so well.

  37. SDQ

    Bearded can still be hot….

    • guest

      Funny, my ex husband didn’t think so. (or was is the hairy hobbity-feet that caused him to leave me? Hmmm…)

  38. Suwaida Siddiqi

    Knowing Armitage, he would probably prefer not to look hot!
    As far as LOTR movies are concerned, I’m afraid I only watched them for the story rather than the hotness, or otherwise, of the actors! What counts is Jackson’s ability to be faithful to the spirit of the book. We know they made several changes to the story and even the characterization of the LOTR novels. It worked. The changes never bother me as long as I feel the story has been told well without any major upheavels. So, I believe I will wait for the movies before passing judgment on the way the actors look. Personally, I feel that Armitage is a great actor who does not need to rely on his looks. He and Freeman will make a great acting duo! And even if they hide those lovely looks, you can console yourself with his eyes and voice!

  39. Karmichael

    thank you ‘Orc’! the Tolkien series is to golden to mess with. thik of the “10,000,000,000,000” guys you’d piss off when these badass dwarves are worried about how they look to non-existent dwarf women! It makes no sense. Plus, there are no expectations for the dwarves to be handsome when all we have to compare to, are Gimli and the dwarf kings in the prologue. EPIC FAIL

  40. Gracemaikavegas

    so you like richard armatage? watch him in bbc’s north and south.glad he’s in the hobbits, pity about the mask though, anyhow its going to be about the acting and the voice, fans will love him.thank you pj

  41. ML

    Late to the party and never been to this site before, but I had to comment on this.

    As a woman, this post is embarrassing to me. Good-looking actors are a nice bonus in any medium, and actually can catalyze audience engagement with the characters (male and female). But in no way is “eye candy” a necessary or sought-after element for me and many, many other film-watching women. Which is why I was so surprised that this post was written by a woman. Way to reinforce the horrible female stereotype of silly, swooning fangirl. I have no doubt that isn’t what you’re really like… which is why it’s so disappointing to read a woman expressing herself that way, for reasons it would depress me to speculate upon.

    That aside, I actually agree that all Gimli-style dwarves for “The Hobbit” might be a mistake. Not because they’re ugly, but because the sheer volume of prosthetics and hair covering their faces would (1) make it difficult to tell them apart, and perhaps even more importantly, (2) severely limit the actors’ facial expressiveness and performance. Another thing Jackson would probably consider is how extremely uncomfortable the facial prosthetics were for John Rhys-Davies, and whether that shouldn’t be addressed this time around when a large number of actors will be needing to perform in them. Some streamlining might be in order.

    For these reasons, I would completely understand a departure from the Gimli aesthetic, while still retaining the Dwarvish essence. But do they need to be “hot”? No. And I really hope Jackson and other decision-makers on the films don’t feel any need to insult their audience by catering to such an air-headed mindset.

  42. I actually agree with you, maegwyn. How many of the guys going “it’s so wrong” would be thinking that if say they’d covered up Liv Tyler with prosthetics and turned her into a dwarf wife(including beard;)? I’m quite sure many of them would have been perfectly happy to make an exception for “hot dwarf wives” if that was the case. 😀

    On the one hand, I do get it, dwarves should be dwarves, on the other hand, why hire a bunch of really hot actors to play them if they are just going to cover them up in lumpy make-up? I don’t want to see a bunch of hot men being NOT hot. 🙂 Even though they are all great actors(and they are) blah blah blah – I still know they are hot and I’ll know what I’m missing and I’ll be really frustrated by that if they aren’t allowed to be…well…hot. 😀 I do think they can come up with a workable compromise and I’m sure they’ll have the beards.

    It has nothing to do with silly swooning fangirlism – it has to do with human nature, which is why you always have hot skinny 20something women playing astrophysicists and disease experts in films and sci fi shows, so the men have something hot to look at while getting their action fix. Personally I find it far more against women to pretend that women don’t like to look at attractive men as much as men like to look at attractive women. Now we can are argue about needing to change that for both genders but let’s not pretend that somehow women are above that right now. Sure we might like to have some actual TALENT to go along with the attractiveness but let’s not pretend we’re “better” than men by acting like it’s only silly teenage girls who are an embarrassment to womankind who like to see attractive heroes while the rest of us are just “above” such things. That is positively Victorian. 🙂 Most of us aren’t above it, there is no reason to pretend we are. Good for maegwyn for coming out and admitting what a heck of a lot of women are actually thinking.

    Speaking of which, I had no idea about the “Figwit” meme. LOL Although as the admittedly shallow woman I’ve admitted to being, I did note the very pretty elf who asked after Arwen in the forest. And I certainly had no idea that was Bret from Flight of the Conchords, I actually saw Flight of the Conchords live in 2004 in Montreal at the Just for Laughs festival. At like 2 AM(because the Aussie/New Zealand comedy show started an hour and a half late, we were there until about 4 AM, they were great). I had no idea Bret could look like that.

    • ML

      Does no one else see the harm in objectifying people in these contexts? The story does not call for it. Actors aren’t obligated to be hot for you, just like women aren’t obligated to be hot for men, though indeed much of our media culture does cater to that. Promoting this idea also promotes the widespread message that being Hollywood-sexy is one of the most valuable things you can be. Why the hell would someone want to instill that message in a story like this? Am I the only person in this conversation who hasn’t internalized this message? There is a world of difference between enjoying things beautiful and sexual, and expressing that, and demanding it of everyone you find attractive; every situation that could be made erotic, should be made erotic. I thought that kind of thing was the RESULT of sexual repression.

  43. Nathan

    Authenticity is very important. Tolkein Describes Dwarves as “grim faced”, and it is reckoned that they were between 4.5 to 5.5 ft. tall. All dwarves have beards (perhaps even females), and they are stout and stocky in shape. It would, quite frankly, ruin the movie if the dwarves are portrayed as any more or less than what they are: short, strong, muscular, slightly over-weight, bearded, and “grim faced.”

  44. Amvickery

    I didn’t find the LOTR movies filled with very attractive people. But the way they portrayed their characters kept me interested through all that walking in those films! Let’s give this cast a chance, give Mr. Jackson a chance and, as the subject of many of these comments, Mr. Richard Armitage, a chance. I think the comments should be on hold until we see what the dwarves will look like, and then there is a basis for an opinion. Right now, it is all conjecture.

    BTW, anybody remember how good Planet of the Apes (the original) was? Far more than a beard there for the apes.

  45. Creat3d22

    Ok, reading this I kept thinking “well, we don’t know yet how they’ll look” then I realized the author of the article is probably one of THOSE women herself…

    You wrote: “When it comes down to it, I’m a purist but I’m a red-blooded girl, too. Armitage alone would get me into the theater. But… put Richard in ‘Gimli’ prosthetics and, well, as superficial as it sounds that would not be as much fun”

    You’re kind of the typical audience the studio exec’s are going after, it seems…

  46. GDH

    you can still have “attractive” dwarfs that will still look like dwarfs…i wouldnt go so far to say HOT dwarfs but i think you can still find some room for attractiveness in the actors and still hold true to the true image the book intended.

  47. GDH

    you can still have “attractive” dwarfs that will still look like dwarfs…i wouldnt go so far to say HOT dwarfs but i think you can still find some room for attractiveness in the actors and still hold true to the true image the book intended.

  48. Paramount-Ori

    NO!!! The fact male Dwarves aren’t that attractive adds to the humor of the book and helps shape the perfection of the Elves, who are supposed to be exact opposites of the Dwarves. The shortness, the beards, the dirty habits and filthy manners are what shape the Dwarves. They don’t need to look good when they’re stuffed in a barrel and floating down a river!

  49. thorinsqueen

    I WANT to see Richard as a dwarf because what’s in my actual head is better anyway when I envision him…or hear him speak.

  50. thorinsqueen

    I WANT to see Richard as a dwarf because what’s in my actual head is better anyway when I envision him…or hear him speak.

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