At long last, here’s the chat log of yesterday’s chat with Alessio Cavatore. Thanks again to everyone who participated and asked such great questions, and thank you Alessio!!!! We can’t wait to play Shadow and Flame!

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[17:50] {Telcontar} 1lol
[17:50] {mosa} …
[17:50] {Marc} alessio
[17:50] {Tharkun} Welcome Alessio
[17:50] {Luthien} hi, Alessio!
[17:51] {sab} hi, alessio
[17:51] {Alessio} hi
[17:51] {Marc} So he can’t here us
[17:51] {Yith} heya!
[17:51] {Flinch} he can now 😉
[17:51] {Akh-Ra} hi
[17:51] {Marc} ok: nice to read you, alessio
[17:51] {Telcontar} hey
[17:51] {Tharkun} R we supposed to have sound in here?
[17:51] {Osbad} Afternoon!
[17:51] {mosa} hi allesio!
[17:51] {Messiah} evenin’
[17:51] {Marc} sorry tharkun
[17:51] {mosa} great to meat you : )
[17:52] {Eldariel} good morning
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[17:52] {Marc} (morning)
[17:52] {mosa} *loool*
[17:52] {Marc} (where are u living?)
[17:52] {sab} good evening
[17:52] {Eldariel} (west coast Canada)
[17:52] {Osbad} UK
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[17:52] {mosa} germany *ggg*
[17:52] {Yith} UK – Chesterfield
[17:53] {Messiah} welcome back flinch
[17:53] {Messiah} evenin’ aaron
[17:53] {mosa} wuppertal
[17:53] {Telcontar} Pennsylvania
[17:53] {aaron} hi every body
[17:53] {Luthien} okay, Welcome Alessio Cavatore!
[17:53] {mosa} where are you living allesio?
[17:53] {Hithero} Kent UK
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[17:53] {Alessio} Ok folks, I’m ready. Questions?
[17:53] {mosa} hi aaron
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[17:53] {Luthien} so, from here on out, please message flinch, myself or morog with quesions and we’ll pass them on to Alessio
[17:54] {Flinch} no no… Flinch is selling T-SHirts at the booth
[17:54] {Luthien} oh
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[17:54] {Luthien} okay, me then
[17:54] {Luthien} message 🙂
[17:54] {Flinch} mosa would like to know how old you are Alessio…
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[17:54] {Flinch} it’d be nice if you could actually speak!
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[17:55] {Alessio} I was born on 14/2/72… Valentine’s day! That makes me 31.
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[17:56] {Flinch} *Akh-Ra* I think in RoTK u are gonna change the Ringwraiths’ rules, can u tell us something about it? Is it true that they will have 17-20 points of will in the new version?
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[17:57] {Alessio} They will be 2 Might, 14 Will and 2 Fate. The Witch King will be 3/20/3!
[17:57] {Luthien} {Tharkun} Question: There’s been some discussion about the new Spear/Pike rule. What
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[17:57] {Luthien} What’s your take and will it be changed in the RoTH?
[17:57] {Luthien} {Tharkun} RoTH = RoTK Sorry
[17:57] {Luthien} sorry ’bout that break
[17:58] {Alessio} Spears and pikes will add an Attack to the model fighting rather than fight through. This means they are not involved in the fight at all, clarifying the problems that existed about their strange half in-half out of combat nature
[17:58] {Luthien} sorry for that, guys
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[17:59] {Corvar} there we go
[17:59] {MadMax} 🙂
[17:59] {Luthien} {Marc} elendil does have the sword narsil special rule
[17:59] {Luthien} {Marc} can u ask him..if aragorn get a special sword anduril rule ?
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[18:00] {Flinch} ooo good question
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[18:00] {Alessio} Yes, I figured that re-forging the swod would change the sword’s power (and I didn’t want Aragorn to have both the free point of Might and the free Heroic fight…).
[18:00] {Luthien} wb, aaron
[18:01] {Alessio} When fighting with Anduril, he wounds everything on a 4+, regardless of their defence value
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[18:02] {Marc} WHOA…
[18:02] {Flinch} We’re openning this up for conversation…
[18:02] {Luthien} okay, we’re opening it up
[18:02] {Flinch} try and behave 😉
[18:02] {Luthien} too stilted
[18:02] {Telcontar} wow
[18:02] {Luthien} let’s just have one question at a time if possible
[18:03] {Yith} Alessio – Can you tell us anything about the new Banner rules that are rumoured for Return of the King?
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[18:03] {aaron} hi
[18:03] {Luthien} hi, aaron
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[18:04] {Radagast} hello
[18:04] {Haldir2} hi everyone
[18:04] {mosa} have you got a own homepage? pics of your own figures?
[18:04] {Alessio} Yep, in each combat where at least one of your models is within 3″ of a friendly banner you can re-roll a dice when working out who wins the fight. EG. if you roll a 3,3,2, you can pick up the 2 and hope to get a higher number! quite handy…
[18:04] {Tharkun} Alessio – what’s going to happen with the Hobbit expansion? Will it be 10mm and/or 25mm?
[18:04] {aaron} it sais i need a voice v+ wat does that meen
[18:05] {Yith} very nice thanks!
[18:05] {Alessio} I’m not sure I can talk about the hobbit thing, but I can confirm we are doing something with it…
[18:05] {Lord_Inquisitor} games workshop seems relatively unique as a large *company* that must be consistently be creative to succeed… is it therefore an exciting place to work for, and does it still have a creative spirit, as opposed to business spirit?
[18:05] {Messiah} that means the chat was moderated and you didn’t have the necessary permission to speak, as decided / set by the channel operator for the purpose of holding an ordered discussion
[18:05] {Radagast} are you going to make anymore miniatures for Shadow and Flame?
[18:05] {Haldir2} Alessio- Is there going to be a limited edition Mnas Tirith walls+gate set released for RotK?
[18:05] {Luthien} okay, too many questions too quickly
[18:06] {Maltagearion} one at a time guys
[18:06] {Luthien} let’s let him answer one at a time
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[18:06] {Alessio} Ehr… where do I start?
[18:06] {Maltagearion} mith made it
[18:06] {Steffen} test
[18:06] {Luthien} starting back with this one: {mosa} have you got a own homepage? pics of your own figures?
[18:06] {Marc} Hi steffen
[18:06] {mosa} hi steffen!
[18:06] {RangerOfTheEast} lol
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[18:06] {sab} hi steffen
[18:06] {Marc} jetzt sinds 4 aus dem forum
[18:07] {Steffen} Hi Leute… konnte irgendwie ne Zeit lang nichts schreiben ! 🙁
[18:07] {mosa} not german!
[18:07] {sab} in english
[18:07] {Luthien} okay, guys, we’ve got to keep this in English, please
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[18:07] {Steffen} ok
[18:07] {Steffen} sorry
[18:07] {aaron} can u please tell us if there be any other expansions like shadow and flame
[18:07] {mosa} what about my question??
[18:08] {Steffen} How long does this Discussion go ?
[18:08] {Luthien} I think he’s typing 😉
[18:08] {Steffen} hrhr
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[18:08] {Luthien} this chat is going to be 1 hour long
[18:08] {mosa} great question!
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[18:08] {Marc} only 1h…
[18:08] {mosa} *looool*
[18:08] {Reapersoul} hello
[18:08] {Haldir2} hi
[18:08] {Maltagearion} you made it
[18:08] {Alessio} I’m afraid not. You see I’m more of a fanatical gamer than a complete hobbyist. My model are not very fancy, just functional to play games. I have to confess that I’m not too keen on painting/modelling. My speciality is gaming, gaming and more gaming. Fotr models I recomend the Perrys pages, where you can see their unique collection they designed for Peter Jackson!
[18:08] {Reapersoul} whaey 😉
[18:08] {Reapersoul} Hey Alessio
[18:09] {Tharkun} Alessio – I appreciate the sensitivity dealing wih the Hobbit. Please consider doing 25mm so it integrates with our other mini’s.
[18:09] {Telcontar} yes please!
[18:09] {mosa} adresse of the page please!
[18:09] {Reapersoul} yes!
[18:09] {Hithero} In other words you pay someone to paint your models 🙂
[18:09] {Maltagearion} let him catch up before you post more questions
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[18:09] {Radagast} yes please
[18:09] {Marc} ill give you mosa
[18:09] {mosa} ok
[18:09] {Luthien} okay, now we’re on to this question: {Radagast} are you going to make anymore miniatures for Shadow and Flame?
[18:09] {Marc}
[18:10] {mosa} aha ok great!
[18:10] {Maltagearion} good question
[18:10] {Reapersoul} please do !
[18:11] {Alessio} To answer the evil Hithero, yes, I often pay someone to paint my models (blushes!). Watch Hithero, I know who you are and more importantly, where you live! 😉
[18:11] {Maltagearion} 🙂
[18:11] {Luthien} lol
[18:11] {cubeblue} haha, watch out Dave!
[18:11] {Urukhaileader} 🙂
[18:11] {Akh-Ra} In the books and in the movie we have seen that wargs can attack even without the rider… are u gonna change this rule in the RoTK?
[18:11] {Reapersoul} 😉
[18:11] {Maltagearion} hold the questions
[18:11] {Tharkun} do i see a gauntlet on the floor? 😉
[18:12] {Maltagearion} he’s still working on the first 3
[18:12] {Luthien} akh-ra, please hold the questions for right now, we’re still trying to answer earlier questions
[18:12] {Akh-Ra} sorry
[18:12] {Luthien} exactly, Maltagearion 😉
[18:12] {cubeblue} good question though
[18:12] {Reapersoul} we will get to ask later 😉
[18:12] {Reapersoul} yup
[18:12] {Akh-Ra} (it was a keyboard mistake)
[18:12] {Luthien} we’re keeping track of the order, and once he’s caught up, we can ask more
[18:12] {Alessio} About the Shadow and flame question. We will make the entire range needed for the scenarios in the book. LAter there will be more books and more models.
[18:12] {Maltagearion} good
[18:12] {Radagast} nice, cant wait
[18:13] {Reapersoul} cool
[18:13] {Telcontar} any specifics?
[18:13] {Reapersoul} model type models….
[18:13] {aaron} will there be a mounted aragorn in armour in rotk like in the movie poster
[18:13] {Haldir2} Hold the questions!
[18:13] {Telcontar} while wer r on the subject
[18:13] {Telcontar} sorry
[18:13] {Alessio} I don’t know which one you’ve already seen, so it’s difficult for me to answer that one.
[18:14] {Maltagearion} probably one will be made
[18:14] {aaron} do you mean mounted aragorn
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[18:14] {Flinch} just so you all know.. this chat will for sure be available on Gaming Havens after the chat
[18:14] {Reapersoul} hopefully
[18:14] {Alessio} Yes, there will be Aragorn (foot and mounted) in Gondor heavy armour, Defence 7!
[18:14] {Maltagearion} ooo!
[18:15] {aaron} thanks
[18:15] {Marc} wow…
[18:15] {Maltagearion} nice.
[18:15] {Akh-Ra} wow!
[18:15] {Telcontar} sweet!
[18:15] {Yith} even more of a tank 🙂
[18:15] {Urukhaileader} Darn
[18:15] {Radagast} great!
[18:15] {Reapersoul} cool
[18:15] {Telcontar} can u say wrecking ball
[18:15] {sab} very nice
[18:15] {Reapersoul} how many points though……..(asking himself)
[18:15] {Maltagearion} 100
[18:15] {Maltagearion} ;0
[18:15] {Luthien} okay, moving on to the next question: {Lord_Inquisitor} games workshop seems relatively unique as a large *company* that must be consistently be creative to succeed… is it therefore an exciting place to work for, and does it still have a creative spirit, as opposed to business spirit?
[18:15] {Alessio} always too cheap…
[18:16] {Reapersoul} lol
[18:16] {Flinch} I’d say it can’t be all that exciting he has to put up with e-mails from folks like me!
[18:16] {Steffen} Alessio ! What is about an next big expensionset in the future ? New Figures ? Which Szenarios ?
[18:16] {Luthien} but he gets to travel a lot 🙂
[18:17] {Maltagearion} no more questions for now
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[18:17] {Luthien} Hey, Steffen, we’re going in order
[18:17] {Telcontar} and talk to cool people like us on the internet
[18:17] {Luthien} alessio is going to answer the question that’s currently up to bat
[18:17] {Messiah} mixtures of the creative and the corporate are always an interesting one
[18:17] {Luthien} but we’ll get to yours eventually
[18:17] {Steffen} sorry
[18:17] {Luthien} good questions, everyone!
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[18:17] {thebigmeatball} what as said about the Hobbit’s scale? I signed in a minute or two too late?
[18:17] {Telcontar} not much
[18:17] {Reapersoul} me too
[18:17] {T33N_^ANge^} why don’t you just post the questions first to the ops then they will choose the best ones and post it here?
[18:18] {Alessio} the conflict between business interest and sheer creativity is always a difficult one. You should see our animated meetings, where the creatives like me ask for huge things like a plastic Minas Tirith, and tye sensible managers tryto channel our energies into more business-wise decisions. What you guys see is a compromise… except for when you’ll see the Mumak! eh eh eheheh … It’s HUUUUGGEEEE!!!
[18:18] {Messiah} teen : the chat is not presently in a moderated phase
[18:18] * Lord_Inquisitor nods
[18:18] {Osbad} Full scale!!
[18:18] {cubeblue} that rules.
[18:18] {Osbad} fantastic
[18:18] {Maltagearion} holy smokes!
[18:18] {thebigmeatball} awesome
[18:18] {Yith} Alessio but still smaller than the one in the film right?
[18:18] {cubeblue} it’ll be the size of a small pony
[18:18] {Telcontar} *starts drooling*
[18:19] {Haldir2} Cool
[18:19] {cubeblue} j/k
[18:19] {sab} awesome
[18:19] {Radagast} can you tell us how big?
[18:19] {Reapersoul} good 🙂 I cant wait…
[18:19] {Telcontar} it will cost a fortune
[18:19] {Messiah} General : and this is what mordred will never understand.
[18:19] {GilGaladrocks} The lotr version of a titan!
[18:19] {cubeblue} I think ‘HUUUUUGEEEEE!!!’ is good enough for ‘how big’ 😉
[18:19] {Urukhaileader} Yep
[18:19] {thebigmeatball} yeah
[18:19] {Alessio} we had to scale it down a bit, but it’s still as big as a Monolith, if you play 40K
[18:19] {Maltagearion} yikes
[18:19] {Luthien} wow
[18:19] {cubeblue} nice
[18:19] {Osbad} Nice
[18:20] {Maltagearion} I hope he doesn’t fall on my figures and crushes them.
[18:20] {Reapersoul} freking ‘ell
[18:20] {Yith} thats nice… monolith is probably the biggest thing in 40k
[18:20] {Haldir2} Wow!
[18:20] {Telcontar} *scratches head*
[18:20] {Luthien} okay, next question: {Haldir2} Alessio- Is there going to be a limited edition Mnas Tirith walls+gate set released for RotK?
[18:20] {Yith} that isn’t forgeworld
[18:20] {Reapersoul} how much money wil it be (asking himself)
[18:20] {cubeblue} yeah, to actual real scale would make a lot of playing mat sizes too small.
[18:20] {Alessio} It won’t cost too much, because it will be plastic, but that’s sometime in the future…
[18:20] {Maltagearion} good question
[18:20] {Tharkun} now to find enough foam to transport it…
[18:20] {Reapersoul} cool
[18:20] {Yith} released early next year I assume?
[18:20] {Telcontar} awesome
[18:20] {cubeblue} nice
[18:21] {Osbad} Glad its going to be plastic
[18:21] {cubeblue} yeah, and not forgeworld, that’s a blessing.
[18:21] {Reapersoul} yeah me to short of money ;))
[18:21] {Urukhaileader} Me too.
[18:21] {sab} when can we buy the mumak?
[18:21] {Maltagearion} here as well
[18:21] * Reapersoul thanks god 😉
[18:21] {Alessio} We will make a Gondorian fortress similar to Helm’s deep in scale for the next supplement after the Return of the King: The Siege of Gondor.
[18:21] {Maltagearion} yay
[18:21] {Haldir2} cool!
[18:21] {Yith} but is it Minas Tirith?
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[18:21] {Maltagearion} probably
[18:21] {Reapersoul} my god , we can just all stop building terrain….
[18:21] {mosa} coool!
[18:21] {GilGaladrocks} I hope it won’t be as rare as Helms Deep!
[18:22] {Maltagearion} Prabably rarer
[18:22] {aaron} will be limited edition
[18:22] {Urukhaileader} I have Helm’s Deep
[18:22] {cubeblue} they are re-releasing helms deep.
[18:22] {Luthien} and the next q: {Akh-Ra} In the books and in the movie we have seen that wargs can attack even without the rider… are u gonna change this rule in the RoTK?
[18:22] {Alessio} No, it isn’t Minas Tirith, becasue the White City is just too big and complex, but it will have the same architecture style, a good Gondor fortress!
[18:22] {Maltagearion} is that the last question?
[18:23] {Talafar} Alessio, are all the different rules from BGIME (for example sorcerous blast, confound), going to be made official in ROTK?
[18:23] {Reapersoul} Are you going to make a blind shooting rule?
[18:23] {Yith} guess I better start my new Minas Tirith model then 😉
[18:23] {Maltagearion} stop the questions
[18:23] {Radagast} tell me when I can ask the next question
[18:23] {Alessio} I’m sorry, but Wargs will reamsin as they are. Fell beasts and Mumakils will have their own attacks though.
[18:23] {Akh-Ra} :(((((
[18:23] {mosa} why stop?
[18:23] {Urukhaileader} Yes!
[18:23] {Urukhaileader} About the Fell beast
[18:23] {Haldir2} Stop the questions because he’s too far behind!
[18:23] {Reapersoul} good, I am getting sick of all these new rules…..
[18:24] {sab} mumakils with own attacks?Great!
[18:24] {cubeblue} splat.
[18:24] {Luthien} we’re catching up, Haldir2 😉
[18:24] {Tharkun} I think we should go back to sending our questions to the mods…
[18:24] {Luthien} this is the next q: {Steffen} Alessio ! What is about an next big expensionset in the future ? New Figures ? Which Szenarios ?
[18:24] {Haldir2} Thanks God for that!
[18:24] {Akh-Ra} yes
[18:24] {Flinch} Luthien is on top of it all 😉
[18:24] {Haldir2} lol
[18:24] {Eldariel} Luthien is doing a good job
[18:25] {Yith} yeah as long as Luthien actually keeps track of the questions for Alessio then we’ll be just fine 🙂
[18:25] {Yith} he is…
[18:25] {Luthien} which I am 😉
[18:25] {Yith} yup you are 🙂
[18:25] {Reapersoul} I know the release of the fel beast is imminent but what other “gigantic” creatures will we see released through the rest of the series?(whenever)
[18:25] {Flinch} awesome question…
[18:25] {Reapersoul} yeah go Luthien 😉
[18:25] {Haldir2} Can we start asking more questions now?
[18:26] {Luthien} Reapersoul, let him finish the one he’s currently answering, then we’re up to your q
[18:26] {Luthien} this is the current q: {Tharkun} Question: Will there be any expansions to the Helm’s Deep model? Like extra walls, stairs, towers, etc.
[18:26] {Reapersoul} sorry 🙂
[18:26] {Luthien} erk…no…that was an incorrect paste
[18:26] {Haldir2} lol
[18:26] {Alessio} the return of the king has 12 scenarios, plus a new section called The War of the Ring that deals with the other areas where the Free Peoples were fighting Sauron (Mirkwood, Erebor, Lorien etc.) which includeas five more scenarios! The year after we’ll have two more Shadow and Flame style books, only bigger!
[18:26] {Luthien} THIS is the current question: {Steffen} Alessio ! What is about an next big expensionset in the future ? New Figures ? Which Szenarios ?
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[18:26] {Reapersoul} Are we all just sad and stupid people?
[18:27] {Osbad} WOW. ROTK sounds like a massive book! as big as a Mumak!
[18:27] {Haldir2} Maybe
[18:27] {cubeblue} alright!
[18:27] {Reapersoul} brillant!!!
[18:27] {Osbad} 😀
[18:27] {Reapersoul} COOL!!
[18:27] {mosa} jeaaaa!
[18:27] {Radagast} Are you going to make miniatures based on the Silmarillion?
[18:27] {cubeblue} Erebor, Mirkwood!
[18:27] {Luthien} hang on, radagast: we’re up to Reapersoul now 😉
[18:27] {Luthien} {Reapersoul} I know the release of the fel beast is imminent but what other “gigantic” creatures will we see released through the rest of the series?(whenever)
[18:27] {Reapersoul} wahey 🙂
[18:27] {Haldir2} They don’t have a copyright to do The Silmarillion
[18:28] {Flinch} Radagast please limit your questions to the films, and the trilogy or the Hobbit
[18:28] {aaron} will rotk stuff be able to buy the next games day?
[18:28] {Alessio} No, no Silmarillion, but we may have a look back at the LAst Alliance…
[18:28] {Radagast} ok, sorry
[18:28] {Flinch} GW cannot obtain the Silmarillion
[18:28] {GilGaladrocks} Will Rotk see the release of more Rohan models or will the two towers models stay?
[18:28] {Reapersoul} unells a film is released….
[18:28] {Reapersoul} unless*
[18:28] {Geo-Galad} Is the any plans to bring out types of army list for the point match games?
[18:29] {Haldir2} Alessio- Are you going to release Easterlings and Haradrim for RotK?
[18:29] {Guest} I’m assuming Jackson won’t include the Woses; but what about figures?
[18:29] {Luthien} okay, now we’re three questions deep again
[18:29] {Luthien} this is the current q: {Reapersoul} I know the release of the fel beast is imminent but what other “gigantic” creatures will we see released through the rest of the series?(whenever)
[18:29] {Reapersoul} lol
[18:29] {Talafar} Good question Geo-Galad, I’m wondering about that too
[18:29] {Flinch} well…
[18:29] * Flinch sets mode: +m
[18:29] {Flinch} I think we should address this
[18:30] {Flinch} The Tolkien Estate and Tolkien Enterprises are not managed by the same people
[18:30] {Alessio} I’d love to make abig Smaug, a proper dragon, one that you need an army to stop… but I don’t really know if we’ll be able to do it (legal complications…)
[18:30] {Flinch} because of this, The Lord of the Rings, and the Hobbit are available to work with
[18:30] {Flinch} BUT… TOlkien’s son will not sell the rights to make ANYTHING based on the other works of J.R.R. Tolkien
[18:30] {Flinch} so pending his death… or a change of heart… we will only see things from the Hobbit or the core Trilogy.
[18:31] {Flinch} so yea…
[18:31] * Flinch sets mode: -m
[18:31] {aaron} asd
[18:31] {aaron} sorry
[18:31] {Luthien} okay, let’s try to stick to one question at at time 😉
[18:31] {Flinch} its all good… just a common confusion among tolkien gaming
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[18:32] {Flinch} we WISH WISH WISH we could play the Silamrillion games.. armies and armies of Balrogs… that just rocks!
[18:32] {Reapersoul} whats th question now then?
[18:32] {Yith} lol yup 🙂
[18:32] {Luthien} this one: {GilGaladrocks} Will Rotk see the release of more Rohan models or will the two towers models stay?
[18:32] {Luthien} {Reapersoul} unells a film is rele
[18:32] {aaron} hithero are you there
[18:32] {Reapersoul} huh?
[18:32] {Luthien} er… GilGaladrocks question 😉
[18:32] {Hithero} Still yours reap, bib beasties
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[18:32] {Reapersoul} cool
[18:33] {Luthien} well, alessio mentioned he’d like to do a Smaug but can’t b/c of legal complications
[18:33] {Maltagearion} too bad.
[18:33] {Luthien} are there any other big beasties in the works?
[18:33] {Reapersoul} still, it would be cool….
[18:33] {Maltagearion} be nice too have Smaug
[18:33] {Alessio} we’ll make more versions of the charatcers, sucgh as a mounted Eomer and a mounted Theoden in Armour (very cool armour), and of course Eowyn will be there in several armoured versions. You know she has an important mission to accomplish…
[18:33] {Reapersoul} but we will have the fell beast remembe that…..
[18:33] {GilGaladrocks} good
[18:34] {Osbad} Hobbits in armour?
[18:34] {Reapersoul} oh yeah Eowyn as a man…..
[18:34] {mosa} aha
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[18:34] {sab} How far are you in development with the rotk product-range?
[18:34] {Eldariel} Dernhelm . . . ^_-
[18:34] {Yith} will there be a fellbeast, theoden, merry and eowyn boxed set? or similar?
[18:34] {Yith} oh and nazgul of course 🙂
[18:34] {Hithero} I hope there is no Hobbit riding pillion
[18:34] {Maltagearion} 😉
[18:34] {Reapersoul} whats the question now?
[18:34] {Maltagearion} me too.
[18:34] {GilGaladrocks} Why not Hithero 😉
[18:34] {Luthien} this is hte next question: {Haldir2} Alessio- Are you going to release Easterlings and Haradrim for RotK?
[18:35] {Maltagearion} probably
[18:35] {Reapersoul} yeah
[18:35] {Reapersoul} bye
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[18:35] {Luthien} then there are a few really good questions from PMs that I think we should answer
[18:35] {Hithero} My dremel circular saw is blunt.
[18:35] {Alessio} EAterlings yes. HAradrims will be released later with the Mumak…
[18:35] {Maltagearion} can you answer mine soon? I need to go.
[18:36] {Luthien} Maltagearion, what was your question again?
[18:36] {GilGaladrocks} lol
[18:36] {Maltagearion} Alessio: Will we be seeing more of the Elves? As in more heros, swordsmen, and others?
[18:36] {Maltagearion} that was it
[18:36] {cubeblue} cool, haradrim perhaps in siege of gondor or something like that.
[18:36] {Luthien} okay, that’s the current question 🙂
[18:36] {Maltagearion} thanks
[18:36] {Flinch} the Elves in Shadow and Flame are just stunning
[18:37] {mosa} does everyone from makes a chat protocol?
[18:37] {Marc} @mosa im doing one
[18:37] {Marc} @mosa if it helps you
[18:37] {Mithrandir} 4i too
[18:37] {Flinch} as much as we love our friends over at lastalliance… lets try to stay on topic
[18:37] {mosa} can you copy the text?
[18:38] {Akiuji} I would like to ask a question – are the rules for massed battles going to be in ROTK, and if so what are they like…?
[18:38] {Luthien} this is being logged, mosa
[18:38] {Luthien} and we’ll paste it on Havens afterwards
[18:38] {Alessio} We could make more of thearmy of Gil-galad in the LAst Alliance supplement and sooner or later we’ll make a Mirkwood supplement: Thranduil and his kin need to be done!
[18:38] {Maltagearion} nice, thanks
[18:38] {Radagast} AWESOME!!!
[18:38] {Maltagearion} sounds awsome
[18:38] {sab} cool
[18:38] {Haldir2} cool!
[18:38] {mosa} i need to go now!
[18:38] {Eldariel} Thranduil would be a nice one . . . .
[18:38] {Marc} bye
[18:38] {Maltagearion} bye guys.
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[18:38] {sab} bye
[18:38] {Yith} 🙂
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[18:38] {Luthien} okay, this question is from a PM: {Mithrandir} can you ask this? I hears there will be more Dwarf models, can you give an example?
[18:39] {GilGaladrocks} Why did you choose to make lotr a points game instead of using the usual HQ choice , Elites choice..etc?
[18:40] {Haldir2} Alessio- Are you going to release Sauron for RotK?
[18:40] {Telcontar} Why did you decide to add shamen, and will they only be limited to orcs?
[18:40] {Flinch} I guess we could make this available on as well…
[18:40] {Alessio} What’s a PM? Anyway, Dain will be a bonus model for the War of the Ring in trotk range, and sooner or later we’ll make a supplement on the Iron Hills, featuring plastic Dwarves and possibly cold drakes to fuight against them!
[18:40] {Telcontar} I just wanna get this logged in a a ?
[18:40] {Luthien} alessio: PM is a private message
[18:40] {Haldir2} Cool!!
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[18:41] {Yith} nice
[18:41] {Flinch} Drakes would be oustanding
[18:41] {Luthien} okay, this is the next question: {Tharkun} Question: Will there be any expansions to the Helm’s Deep model? Like extra walls, stairs, towers, etc.
[18:41] {Haldir2} Fire-Drakes would be cool!
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[18:42] {Radagast} will you make miniatures of some dark numenoreans?
[18:42] {Alessio} I don’t think so, but the new Gondor fortress will be compatible with Helm’s deep…
[18:42] {thebigmeatball} ooo
[18:42] {sab} will there be a limited mini for rotk?
[18:42] {Urukhaileader} Hurray!
[18:42] {Luthien} good to know
[18:43] {Luthien} okay, next q: {Talafar} Will the problems with points values be cleared up? For example, over-pointing of moria goblin captains, cheapness of elf bows compared to goblin ones, etc?
[18:43] {GilGaladrocks} Excellent a huge fortress!
[18:43] {Alessio} DAve Andrews is doing it! A guarantee of quality!
[18:43] {Urukhaileader} Yes!
[18:43] {GilGaladrocks} Even better
[18:44] {Haldir2} Cool!
[18:44] {Alessio} A lot of that has been fixed in trotk. Spears are now 1 pt and elven bows and crossbows have doubled in price. Evil captains have been fixed too.
[18:44] {cubeblue} are the perry twins here, or coming?
[18:45] {Telcontar} not here
[18:45] {Telcontar} not coming
[18:45] {Telcontar} =(
[18:45] {GilGaladrocks} Will we be getting Olog Hai?
[18:45] {Luthien} they had to cancel at the last minute, Telcontar
[18:45] {cubeblue} good q
[18:45] {Luthien} this is the next one: {Urukhaileader} How come most of the new stuff comes out in the UK before the US?
[18:45] {Alessio} Unfortunately the Perrys are in Belgium with their tank, but if you want I can phone them and ask then a question.
[18:45] {Yith} Alessio – sounds great
[18:45] {Telcontar} right
[18:46] {Telcontar} i was answering cubeblue
[18:46] {Osbad} 😀
[18:46] {Yith} lol… their tank 🙂
[18:46] {Haldir2} lol
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[18:46] {GilGaladrocks} Let’s Hope they take care!
[18:46] {Alessio} I really don’t know. Release dates are decided by the heads of retail, nothing to do with us designers…
[18:47] {Telcontar} stupid heads of retail
[18:47] {Urukhaileader} Ok
[18:47] {Lord_Inquisitor} games workshop is also based in the UK
[18:47] {Lord_Inquisitor} so it makes sense
[18:47] {Telcontar} it takes forever to get anything here in the US
[18:47] {Lord_Inquisitor} and citadel miniatures etc
[18:47] {aaron1} please tell me more about the iron hills supplement
[18:47] {Akiuji} hey, you guys get movies befor us so it is only fair…8)
[18:47] {Telcontar} yea sigh…
[18:47] {Telcontar} lol
[18:47] {Telcontar} true
[18:47] {Luthien} okay, here’s the next q: {Geo-Galad} can you ask- how the persent tournment rules are going change?
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[18:47] {Telcontar} and video games
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[18:48] {Urukhaileader} Yeah, but I can’t see the movies yet
[18:48] {Haldir2} Why?
[18:48] {Urukhaileader} Because of age
[18:48] {Haldir2} Oh
[18:48] {cubeblue} that sucks
[18:48] {Haldir2} The first one is PG
[18:49] {Urukhaileader} 13
[18:49] {GilGaladrocks} What country do you live in?
[18:49] {Urukhaileader} I have seen that one
[18:49] {Urukhaileader} US
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[18:49] {Eldariel} why would age matter? I’ve seen rated R movies when I was 13
[18:49] {Haldir2} How old are you?
[18:49] {Urukhaileader} My parents
[18:49] {Eldariel} 15
[18:49] {Urukhaileader} 12
[18:49] {Telcontar} u weren’t supposed to tho
[18:50] {Urukhaileader} Nothing against them
[18:50] {Alessio} Now that the points values havebeen fixed (EG BAlrog and Sauron are now 500 pts)I will allow all models in the range into tournaments (except Tom Bombadil, becasue he won’t lewave his borders, Goldberry and Gollum… also there will be an new fourth scenario (people asked for more games! and we are also thinking about double tournaments, where teams of two pewople play together, one with an Evoil Force and one with Good.
[18:50] {Haldir2} If your 12 then you should be allowed to watch TTT!
[18:50] {GilGaladrocks} Ah in the UK it is only reccomended to over 12’s
[18:50] {Eldariel} as long as my parents were there, nobody cared
[18:50] {Talafar} like the idea of doubles tourneys
[18:50] {Yith} Thats cool Alessio… more tourneys nice 🙂
[18:50] {cubeblue} finally, good change to the points for balrog and sauron
[18:50] {Yith} just need a partner 🙂
[18:50] {Haldir2} And in US is it 13+?
[18:50] {aaron1} will there be a theoden model on a horse with armour and will his stats change
[18:50] {aaron1} please answer
[18:50] {Urukhaileader} Yes
[18:51] {Talafar} didn’t Dejan do that for his tournament in croatia?
[18:51] {Yith} looking forward to the next tourney… this year’s was fantastic
[18:51] {Luthien} aaron1, I will add that question to the list
[18:51] {Haldir2} Alessio- Are you going to have Sauron for RotK?
[18:51] {Talafar} sure was fantastic
[18:51] {Luthien} this is the current question: {sab} wil there be a limited mini for rotk?Which?
[18:51] {aaron1} thanks luthien
[18:52] {Telcontar} we need a tournament in the US!
[18:52] {Urukhaileader} Yes, we do
[18:52] {Alessio} Once more, that decision belongs to the sales companies, so the heads of our US branch will decide. I’ve heard it might be Denethor…
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[18:52] {mosa} hi
[18:52] {Marc} re
[18:53] {Eldariel} I like Denethor. He went nutz!
[18:53] {Osbad} makes sense – Denethor doesn’t actually fight (at least in the books . . .)
[18:53] {sab} nice
[18:53] {Haldir2} lol
[18:53] {Telcontar} next ?
[18:53] {Luthien} just a sec…
[18:53] {Telcontar} no prob
[18:53] {Telcontar} jw
[18:53] {Luthien} marc asked this, and I’m curious too: Alessio, have you had a chance to see Peter Jackson’s RotK yet?
[18:54] {Akiuji} ooh..
[18:54] {Haldir2} good question
[18:54] {Telcontar} i heard it wasn’t even finished yet
[18:54] {mosa} …
[18:54] {thebigmeatball} I don’t think it is
[18:54] {Akiuji} they still have rough cuts
[18:54] {Haldir2} It is finished, but PJ’s editing it now
[18:54] {Telcontar} well yea
[18:55] {Mithrandir} oh no only 12 minutes… 🙁
[18:55] {Luthien} well ask as many questions as we can in the next 12 minutes
[18:55] {Haldir2} 6 mins left, I think!
[18:55] {mosa} i don’t understand! only 12 figures??
[18:56] {Alessio} No, I’ve seen the extended version of the Two Towers in Weta’s own little cnema and that was awesome. The film is sooo much more complete! I have seena few scenes of TROTK and some animatics, it looks unbelievable! It reminded me a lot of the beginning of the first film, just bigger! I can also say that the Perrys, Brian Nelson and Me are in TROTK as extras!!! TH experience of a lifetime!
[18:56] {mosa} sorry!
[18:56] {Luthien} well, actually, according to my clock, it’s 9 minutes…
[18:56] {Haldir2} I’ve asked my Sauron question three times!
[18:56] {Urukhaileader} What part do you play?
[18:56] {Eldariel} neat!
[18:56] {Telcontar} cool
[18:56] {Urukhaileader} 4 minutes
[18:56] {Luthien} that is so awesome, alessio!
[18:56] {Telcontar} i’d love to know what scene
[18:56] {Urukhaileader} By my watch
[18:56] {Radagast} lucky you
[18:56] {Luthien} 8 minutes now, and my watch is the official watch 😉
[18:56] {Haldir2} lol
[18:56] {Hithero} He played a part that shows of his acting talents to the full 🙂
[18:57] {Mithrandir} 4lets only write questions ok?
[18:57] {Haldir2} Or maybe he played a Gondorian tripping over his feet 🙂
[18:57] {mosa} yeah
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[18:57] {david} hellooo
[18:57] {Luthien} okay, this is the next q: {Haldir2} Alessio- Are you going to release sauron for RotK?
[18:58] {thebigmeatball} please say no..
[18:58] {mosa} are you david wollmer?
[18:58] {Alessio} Why should we?
[18:58] {Telcontar} yea please no
[18:58] {david} stanbury
[18:58] {Telcontar} lol
[18:58] {Yith} cool… thats a good answer 😉
[18:58] {Telcontar} what an answer?
[18:58] {Luthien} yup
[18:58] {thebigmeatball} yes it is!
[18:58] {mosa} ok
[18:58] {Yith} there is rumour of a fight between Aragorn and Sauron… seems very unlikely
[18:58] {Haldir2} Because there are rumours that he’s at the battle at the Black Gates
[18:58] {Luthien} okay, we have time to ask three more questions
[18:59] {Yith} except maybe in a palatir with minds 🙂
[18:59] {david} have i missed alessio
[18:59] {aaron1} what other models stats will change like legolas, if they do?
[18:59] {Luthien} go ahead and ask them here, and then we’ll keep track
[18:59] {Luthien} that’s 1
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[18:59] {Yith} Will there be an Orc Shamen… in addition to the Uruk and Goblin one?
[18:59] {Telcontar} my shamen question
[18:59] {Luthien} that’s 2
[18:59] {Telcontar} the one i asked before
[18:59] {Talafar} Will the alternate rules from BGIME, for example sorcerous blasts and confound, be official in ROTK?
[18:59] {Radagast} are you going to do anything with Numenor?
[18:59] {Luthien} that’s right! I never pasted that one
[18:59] {Mithrandir} 4only improtant questions
[18:59] {Alessio} Well, the hobbits are gettingmeaner (they have gained a lot of experience points you see),
[18:59] {thebigmeatball} Talafar’s Question is good
[19:00] {Alessio} Yes, there will be an Orc Shaman soon.
[19:00] {baboonfrodo} Will Shamen have free will like Gandalf?
[19:00] {thebigmeatball} they don’t
[19:00] {Hithero} Do you prefer a Big Mac or Burger King?
[19:00] {Yith} “experience points”? is this a new rule that may come along or just a turn of phrase?
[19:00] {Luthien} okay, that’s it for questions, but I’m adding Telcontar’s shamen question b/c I missed that one
[19:00] {david} i heard of a Scouring of the SHire expansion like S&F as a rumour
[19:00] {Luthien} so, question #1: {aaron1} what other models stats will change like legolas, if they do?
[19:00] {Akiuji} you missed mine too
[19:01] {Yith} he answered that one Luthien
[19:01] {Alessio} I did.
[19:01] {aaron1} will the hobbits be in armour
[19:01] {david} will the scouring of the shire be brought out
[19:01] {sab} veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery important: will there ba legolas mini with knives?
[19:02] {GilGaladrocks} you could always convert one
[19:02] {Telcontar} that is a good question…
[19:02] {Luthien} okay, my mistake
[19:02] {Alessio} Thew scouring of the dshire would make a fun supplement!
[19:02] {david} i know thats why i want one
[19:02] {Alessio} Ok guys, last question. Luthien?
[19:02] {mosa} why last?
[19:02] {Luthien} let’s do this one: {Talafar} Will the alternate rules from BGIME, for example sorcerous blasts and confound, be official in ROTK?
[19:03] {thebigmeatball} yes good one
[19:03] {Telcontar} Sigh…
[19:03] {mosa} will the adventures in middleearth are going nexter?
[19:04] {mosa} the magazin i mean
[19:04] {sab} alessio, i want to invite you to the forum of!
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[19:04] {sab} please visit us 🙂
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[19:04] {aaron1} thanks allesio
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[19:05] {cubeblue} Alessio, thanks for doing this chat with us today! And keep up the fantastic work!
[19:05] {Urukhaileader} Thank you much
[19:05] {Alessio} Good question. BGIME and our LOTR are different products. We work close with them and help eacj other, so most of the rules are exactly the same (as you will see in trotk),, some aren’t due to the different time scale in which we work. So in our events we’ll aklways use our own rules and they will will use theirs in their events, if they do any. You people are free to choose whichver you prfer for your games.
[19:05] {Luthien} great 🙂
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[19:05] {Talafar} thanks for that Alessio, hopefully see you at Gamesday or the next GT
[19:05] {Telcontar} Thanks for chatting Alessio!
[19:05] {Urukhaileader} Ok
[19:05] {Akh-Ra} Ciao Alessio ci si vede sul Forum italiano!!!
[19:05] {Yith} Thanks Alessio .. See you at the next GT… I hope you will be able to roll your special dice for me and Talafar again 🙂
[19:05] {Luthien} Alessio, thank you so much for joining us in this chat!!
[19:05] {Talafar} heh
[19:05] {Tharkun} 12Thanks everyone!
[19:05] {Urukhaileader} Thank you again
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[19:06] {thebigmeatball} yup
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[19:06] {Alessio} Thank you very much guys. It has been fun and we must do this again sometime! Ciao
[19:06] {Haldir2} Thanks for amswering all thoses questions, Alessio!
[19:06] {GilGaladrocks} Ok thanks Alessio
[19:06] {Yith} yeah soon!
[19:06] {Urukhaileader} Ciao
[19:06] {Radagast} thanks for chatting, ciao!
[19:06] {Mithrandir} 4thx
[19:06] {Yith} ciao!
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[19:06] {Eldariel} thankies!
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {sab} thank you very much for taking time
[19:06] {Osbad} Ta!
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {T33N_^ANge^} give him a round of applause
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {Telcontar} *claps*
[19:06] {sab} applause
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {Hithero} Adios
[19:06] * Urukhaileader hopes I can go to a GD and meet you some day
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
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[19:06] {Mithrandir} 4CU @
[19:06] * Marc applauses
[19:06] {Luthien} thank you everyone for attending!!
[19:06] {mosa} cu
[19:06] {mithaearon} thanks
[19:06] {Haldir2} Bye!
[19:06] {mosa} ciao
[19:06] {Luthien} if you want to stay and continue to discuss all of this, you’re very welcome to
[19:07] {Urukhaileader} Bye
[19:07] {mithaearon} bye all
[19:07] {Yith} a big thanks to the TORN guys for organising this
[19:07] {Eldariel} bye yall!
[19:07] {Urukhaileader} Adios
[19:07] {mosa} bye
[19:07] {Telcontar} Bye all
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[19:07] {Luthien} #havens is here 24/7 for gaming talk 🙂
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[19:07] {sab} hope you come to GD Germany
[19:07] {Urukhaileader} Caio
[19:07] {Yith} Hip! Hip!
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[19:07] {Tharkun} happy gaming all, til next time…
[19:07] {Telcontar} yea thanks Flinch and Luthien escpecially!
[19:07] {cubeblue} Thanks Flinch and everyone at the gaming havens, you all rock, once again!
[19:07] {Haldir2} Bye erveryone!
[19:07] {sab} oooooh, now hes gone
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[19:07] {Luthien} ty for asking such great questions, guys!
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[19:07] {GilGaladrocks} My the blessings of elves and men go with you!
[19:08] {Luthien} 🙂
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[19:08] {Talafar} bye everyone
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