Think you can’t afford items from Sideshow/Weta Collectibles? Well, here’s your chance! Sideshow/Weta has just split their three series of 4 helms into individual items! So instead of buying a set for $100, you can now purchase each individually for $25. From Isildur’s Helm to Gandalf’s hat, their collection of helms crosses all aspects of the film. [More]
Day: May 22, 2003
The valar, the angelic powers of the world who entered Ea to fulfill the vision of Illuvatar. There they made the lands, the seas and the stars. They made the sun and the moon, and fought Melkor for the mastery of the earth. And above all; they made the lands habitable for the children of Illuvatar. But with the coming of elves and men their guardianship was wrought with troubles, and their actions were often strangely inadequate and unperceptive.[More]
The valar, the angelic powers of the world who entered Ea to fulfill the vision of Illuvatar. There they made the lands, the seas and the stars. They made the sun and the moon, and fought Melkor for the mastery of the earth. And above all; they made the lands habitable for the children of Illuvatar. But with the coming of elves and men their guardianship was wrought with troubles, and their actions were often strangely inadequate and unperceptive.[More]
The valar, the angelic powers of the world who entered Ea to fulfill the vision of Illuvatar. There they made the lands, the seas and the stars. They made the sun and the moon, and fought Melkor for the mastery of the earth. And above all; they made the lands habitable for the children of Illuvatar. But with the coming of elves and men their guardianship was wrought with troubles, and their actions were often strangely inadequate and unperceptive.
We will take a closer look at why the valar understood the elves but a little, and men not at all, and how this led them to make truly disastrous decissions. The mighty vala Ulmo was however often opposed to Manwes strategies and together with Mandos he showed great foresight and wisdom in his dealings with the children.
Where did the valar make their worst mistakes, and what was their greatest successes? How did their strategies change over time and who do you think did the most to aid elves and men in their wars with the dark powers? Why did the valar lay down their guardianship when the numenoreans attacked Valinor?
We will also debate the events leading up to the dispatchment of the istari to middle earth, and explore the links between the wizards and specific valar.
Join us in #thehalloffire as we try to decide whether the valar were wise councels or strategic dimwits.
Suggested reading:
The Silmarillion – Ainulindale, Valaquenta and chapters 1,2,3,6,8,11, and 24
Unfinished tales – The Istari
Morgoths ring – Of the coming of the elves
Upcoming discussions:
May 31/April 1
Return of the King Book V, Chapter 8 – The Houses of Healing
Times:
Saturday Chat:
5:30pm ET (17:30)
[also 11:30pm (23:30) CET and 7:30am Sunday (07:30) AET]
Sunday Chat:
7:00 pm (19:00) CET
[also 1:00pm (13:00) ET and 3:00am (03:00) Monday morning AET]
ET = Eastern Time, USA’s East Coast
CET = Central European Time, Central Europe
AET = Australian East Coast
Do you have a possible topic for Hall of Fire? Drop us a line at halloffire@theonering.net.
Barrie Osborne at the TTT Premiere in LA
Producer mastermind Barrie Osborne shares a few fireside stories with Quickbeam and Asfaloth on the red carpet premiere of Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers in Los Angeles. Barrie had a hand as directing for the second unit of the production and he tells us his experiences with the cast and crew. He also sends out a warm greeting to TORN and all her loving fans! Also be on the lookout for that quick-witted Dwarf to make an appearance! Produced by Asfaloth [More]
The two major changes in RotK are addition of TTT material and cutting of Scouring:
– Isengard sequence/VOS is at the beginning of RotK.
– Minas Morgul, stairs of Cirith Ungol and Shelob’s lair also in RotK
– “We don’t have the Scouring of the Shire.” (In case anyone was holding out hope … )
– At this point, no Ghan-Buri-Ghan. Doubts this will be added in pickups.
– Otherwise it follows the book “reasonably well.”
Other stuff:
– Shelob will be “the creepiest and scariest of creatures.” Based on the Tunnel Web spider of New Zealand. Photo above
– Mumakil and Nazgul will have center-stage appearances – more spectacular.
– Post-production should be completed and film “delivered” end of October, early November.
– Also of interest: “We only meet one new character, which is Denethor – and he’s only new to those who don’t check out The Two Towers extended cut in November!” Sounds like a comfirmation of the Faramir / Boromir / Denethor flashback.