-Elijah Wood was a child actor. But he’s never been in rehab, and he hates the spotlight. Very weird.-
By Patty Adams
I’m walking around The Library, a swanky New York City lounge, looking for the star of The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. It isn’t too hard to find him: The indie-boy spiky brown hair and black Chuck Taylor sneakers make him stick out among the gray suits like a BeDazzled ‘NSYNC fan at Ozzfest.
Though Elijah Wood, 21, has been acting practically his whole life, he wasn’t super famous until last year’s The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. The movie earned more than $800 million worldwide and 13 Oscar nominations. And Elijah even got his own action figure. But the moment we knew he was huge? When he shook hands with Ozzy on an episode of The Osbournes.
“Come sit down,” says Elijah, gesturing toward a squishy leather couch at the back of the room. “How are you?” he asks. My first impression: He’s shy, polite, and much cuter in person. Unlike most stars, Elijah (Elwood to his friends-as in Elijah Wood) actually asks about me-where I’m from, what kind of music I like, and how long I’ve worked at ym.
Kindergarten Dropout
Back when Elijah was little, in Cedar Rapids, IA, his deli-owning parents, Deborah and Warren, called him Sparkplug because he was known for being a spaz. “I used to climb on everything,” Elijah says. “I was always causing trouble.” (Looking at the totally mellow guy sitting across from me, constantly saying “please” and “thank you,” it’s hard to imagine.)
When he was in kindergarten, his mom enrolled Elijah in a local modeling and talent school. Six months later, they visited LA for a model and talent convention, and he signed with an agent who got him some commercials and TV guest spots. His mom promptly packed up and moved to LA with Elijah and his older brother, Zach (now a 28-year old video game producer). His sister, Hannah, (an aspiring poet), 19, and his dad followed later. His father bounced between jobs with Federal Express and an air-purification company, while his mom helped manage Elijah’s acting career.
I suggest to him that some people might think he’s got one of those controlling movie-industry mothers, but Elijah says he doesn’t. “Stage moms generally force their kids into it, and have much more of a vested interest in their kids’ careers,” he says, sitting up in his seat and sounding somewhat defensive. (I would have loved to have talked to his mom, but she declined to be interviewed, as did the rest of his family and most of his close friends. Elijah seems to be protective of them-and vice versa.) I did get to talk to Courtney B. Vance, though, Elijah’s co-star from 1993’s
The Adventures of Huck Finn. He remembers Deborah Wood as a loving mom on the movie’s rural Mississippi set. “People had a tendency to tread Jah Jah (his nickname for Elijah) as an adult because he was always so professional,” says Courtney. “But Deborah was there for Elijah, keeping him balanced and making sure no one forgot he was an 11-year old.”
Growing Pains
So while other kids were shooting spitballs and going to Little League practice, Elijah was starting his career, playing a pint-sized business exec in Paula Abdul’s “Forever Your Girl” video at age 7. It seems like he kind of became a mini adult off screen, too. “I was always surrounded by people three times my age,” says Elijah. “I guess it rubbed off.” Soon he landed roles in movies like Forever Young with Mel Gibson, The Good Son with fellow boy actor Macaulay Culkin, and Flipper with a very talented dolphin. Elijah admits that being treated like an adult all the time was hard. “I grew up fast mentally and didn’t relate to people my own age,” he says. “They were focused on the next night’s homework. I was concentrating on my lifelong career.” Yikes.
Elijah was homeschooled and tutored on-set, so he never had to deal with school bullies or trying to fit in. “I’m grateful,” he says. “I’ve heard enough from my friends to know that I didn’t miss out. High school is a pretty brutal battleground.”
The same could be said of a family going through divorce. Elijah’s parentls split up when he was 15, but he feels he wasn’t traumatized. Why? Because, he says, he never had a strong relationship with his dad. Hmm. The plot thickens.
“Generally, divorce has a negative impact-you’re close with your mom and your dad, and you don’t want to see them part,” Elijah says very unemotionally, almost mechanically (that self-defense thing seems to work for him). “But I always felt closer to my mother; she’s the one who really raised me, so [the divorce] was fairly easy for me.” He’s recently said that even though his dad was physically present, he wasn’t emotionally, and he wasn’t nurturing. Now his father lives back in Iowa, and they rarely speak to each other.
It’s weird that Elijah brushes off his parent’s divorce as no big deal, and even stranger that he doesn’t seem to care about not having a relationship with his father. But as he goes on talking about his dad, Elijah’s eyes get a little glassy. You don’t need to be Freud to see there are some unresolved issues there. Maybe that’s why he began taking on darker acting roles as he got older. In 1998, he was a class-ditcher in the sci-fi thriller The Faculty. The following year he played a hip-hop wannabe who smoked, did drugs, and had a lot of sex in Black and White. By the age of 18, he’d been in more than 15 movies and even had fan clubs. As far as Hollywood was concerned, though, he still hadn’t found his career-defining role.
Nothing Like Pointy Ears and Hairy Feet to Bring a Guy Friends and Fame
“Pardon me while I run to the loo,” says Elijah. When he returns from the bathroom, I call him on his faux-British speak because he’s been usin Brit slang like “keen” and “brilliant” all through our interview. He blames it on spending more than a year with a mostly British cast. Of course, he’s referring to the filming of J.R.R. Tokien’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy. In all three (the third part comes out next December), Elijah stars as Frodo Baggins, the pointy-eared, hairy-footed hobbit destined to save Middle Earth.
Frodo is his favorite role to date. “He starts out pure-hearted, but the ring chips away at the innocence and purity of Frodo’s soul in the second [movie],” says Elijah. “He starts to lose trust and faith in the people around him.” Meanwhile, life offscreen was the exact opposite. “I don’t think I’ve ever been so close with people I’ve worked with in my life,” says Elijah. “I did a lot of growing up; I probably aged 10 years,” he jokes about his time filming LOTR. “But seriously, the person who went to New Zealand and the person who left there are significantly different.”
Filming in New Zealand kind of became Elijah’s college experience: He joined a fraternity of sorts with the guys on-set, and it was the first time he’s lived away from his mom for more than a few months. “I created a whole new life there,” says Elijah. “I had a car, a house, and I did my own shopping. So it was far beyond just making a movie.”
The hobbits-Elijah, Sean Astin, Dominic Monaghan, and Billy Boyd-became inseperable. They hung out, watched movies, hit the pubs. “We didn’t get tired of each other,” Elijah says. “That’s a real testament to our relationships.” As are their matching tattoos. The nine actors whose characters made up the Fellowship of the Ring each inked themselves with the symbol for nine in Elvish, one of the movies fictitious languages. Did it hurt? “Like hell!” he says, wincing. “It’s like a hot, searing blade sawing into your skin. I’d do it again, though.”
The Secrets of a Mama’s Boy
Elijah lives in a guest house behind his mom’s place in Santa Monica, CA. He is the breadwinner but his mom still does his laundry and cooks for him. “I don’t cook,” says Elijah. “I wanted to go to culinary school for a while, but I never did.” It isn’t just the home cooking that keeps him there. Elijah and his mom are close. “I wake up in the morning, go to Mom’s house, have a cup of coffee and chat,” he says. “She likes the same music that I do, so she’ll have the White Stripes on. How cool is that?” Very, but it must get a bit weird to live so nearby-what if he brought a girl back to his place? “I’ve never done that,” he says. “I don’t know how it would work, but my mom would probably be very cool.”
Too Sweet To Kiss And Tell
Which brings up my next topic: dating. Elijah admits he’s been in love “probably more than once,” but he doesn’t give any names. He’s been linked with Franka Potente, 28, his co-star in the yet-to-be-scheduled romantic comedy, Try Seventeen, which also stars Mandy Moore. When I ask if Franka’s one of those loves, Elijah gets tight-lipped, bites his nails, and goes into the usual celebrity spiel about keeping his private life private. He doesn’t have a problem talking about romance in general, though.
“Anything is suddenly romantic when you’re with someone you care about,” he says. “Even something as simple as going out and getting take-away and watching a movie. Romance isn’t about buying flowers or having a picnic. It’s the little gestures-like a massage or an unexpected kiss.”
So what sort of girl makes him gaga while eating lo mein out of a carton? “I really enjoy women who have a strong sense of themselves, who aren’t afraid to speak their mind,” says Elijah. “On a superficial level, I like girls with dark hair-I’m a sucker for that. If a girl has an English, French, Italian, or German accent, I go crazy.” (Franka is German and has dark hair. Coincidence?)
Voted Least Likely To Party
Despite that Osbournes episode last season, Elijah’s not into the Hollywood scene. He says he doesn’t normally go to premieres unless he’s in the movie, and he sometimes ditches the after-party. “I get really quiet and anti-social,” he says. “I’m not very good at working at it.”Maybe that’s why he surrounds himself with people who love to talk, like Kelly and Jack. His sister Hannah-who met Jack at some concert-introduced them and they just clicked. “The Osbournes are insane, but I love them,” says Elijah.Another one of Elijah’s loudmouth friends is MTV’s resident tatttoed rocker Iann Robinson. They met when Iann interviewed Elijah last year, and realized that they both loved music, video games, and horror films. “Elijah’s just like me, only skinnier and more famous,” says Iann. “When Elijah’s in New York, we often stay up till 4 or 5 a.m., watching movies. A few weeks ago, we watched The Exorcist III. He’d never seen it and I was like, ‘Dude, it’s the best movie ever.'” Iann says Elijah often crashes at his place if it’s late. “He doesn’t pull that ‘I’m a movie star so you must do everything for me’ crap,” says Iann.
“Most young people are arrogant by nature, so if you’re talented and have money on top of that, you’re usually an ass to a spectacular degree. But not Elijah. We can talk about politics, family problems, and music.”Speaking of music, Elijah played DJ for Mandy Moore while filming Try Seventeen. “We both really like the Strokes and Bjork, but he also turned me onto so much music I don’t think I would’ve listened to on my own,” says Mandy.
Elijah, a big fan of the Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead, and the Beach Boys, says his latest obsession is Songs for the Deaf by Queens of the Stone Age (he even brought it to our cover shoot). He claims he owns between 1,200 and 1,500 CDs. “I know it’s insane,” says Elijah. “I can’t possibly listen to all of them.” Well, the first step is admitting you have a problem, right? After our music tangent, Elijah checks his watch and politely asks how much longer we’ll be. (What, am I boring him?) After he says thanks for making the trek to see him, he tells me, “I’m into girls, video games, and music. See, I’m like any other guy my age.”
Lets hail Peter Jackson for another reason this time around. PJ is an honest dealer. PJ is being faithful to the faithful. The Two Towers film is NOT as faithful to the book by some considerable measure as compared to The Fellowship of the Ring. But PJ, In my opinion, clearly is.
I wont litter this review with spoilers or detailed explanations. Suffice it to say, numerous small liberties and a few large ones have been taken with the storyline, on both sides of the Anduin. I expect the long time fans of the book (and Im approaching the 40th anniversary of MY first reading of it, so I take my helmet off to few ) to notice. Many will argue. Many more will be disturbed and some will be infuriated. I was made uncomfortable from time to time by the differences. More on that anon.
Fairness to the film now dictates that I describe its huge stockpile of treasures. Again, New Zealand is Middle Earth, and the cast is, again, nearly perfect. Newcomers to the cast range from the wonderful to the spectacular. Brad Dourif is stunning, stunning as Grima Wormtongue. The translucently beautiful Miranda Otto is a Magnificent Eowyn. Bernard Hill brings so much magnetic presence and humanity to the old King Theoden, all deserving of vast heaps of praise.
Gollum is astonishing. I wont even bother to expand on that. Wait to see him for yourself, then in mute wonder, pry your eyes and ears away from him for even a second to agree with me, if you can. The reappearance of the Nazgul, riding flying fell beasts? This was one of the moments I have been aching to see from the beginning, and they are sublimely evil, gloriously terrifying, perfect.
Treebeard and the ents, Im a little less thrilled with but I have the opinion that the professor added that sequence to make sure a movie version was never made at all. They are serviceable, they do the job.
Standout sequences: PJ and partners show their superb talent for streamlining once again with the Three Hunters section, which is expertly delivered and yet largely stripped of excess. Likewise the stretch from Taming Smeagol again, astonishing through Herbs and Stewed Rabbit. The essentials are there even everyones favorite discussion of Fish and Chips.
Now for the quibbling and the counter-quibbling. The battle of Helms Deep, to my mind, is huge, clear, vivid and exquisite, and about five to ten minutes too long for anybody but the faithful. Some of it could and much of what was unseen probably will be relegated to the extended edition, which I, too, will watch again and again, never fear. The great cavalry leader of Rohan, Erkenbrand, apparently has the same agent as Tom Bombadil and Glorfindel, and shares their fate. Eomer (Karl Urban, suitably masculine and impulsive) rides his horse and does his chores instead. Arwen manages a brief appearance in a sequence that fills in a gap that has confused many non readers of the book: Elronds apparent dissapproval of Aragorn, particularly where his daughter is concerned. Elrond now seems far more justified in his concern and far less antagonistic to his foster child, Aragorn.
Faramirs entry marks a noticeable veer from the known storyline: in fact this variation will be the biggest controversy among ringers, once the film is seen. I must say I would have very much preferred the books storyline here, myself, but the necessity for the change is fairly clear: Timing.
Grab your paperback copy of The Return of the King. Find the page that begins the appendices. Now measure the actual books thickness against Fellowship and the Two Towers. Theres the problem.
Could you sell three films, one that runs three hours, one that runs four hours and the last one that runs about 80 minutes? Aha.
So, clearly some moving must be done. (or film the appendices, but thats not really an answer.) But that raises another problem. The book is being adapted into a Movie, not into Masterpiece Theatre. A bang-up ending is required, and if you want to argue with this inescapable fact, I suggest you need to see a few movies, and face reality, particularly fiscal reality, the way New Line Cinema probably sees things. Faramirs long confrontation with Frodo and Sam is a wonderful read, because it does a great deal of character exploration, and sets up the third book beautifully. However, most of it is conversation, dinner, conversation, surprise slip of the tongue revelation, and conversation. Blockbuster action adventure fantasy films cannot depend on a climax that resembles My Dinner with Andre even if dinner IS in a cave in Ithilien, hidden behind a waterfall. The other storyline back in Rohan, has so many climaxes, this is not a problem. Pick one, defer the rest for a year.
Defense, Part One: This is a necessity, and PJ in his wisdom clearly knew it, and bit the bullet here for the good of the Great Tale as a whole. PJ has made it clear in numerous statements, and interviews devoured by most of us, that this book is the one in which the script had the most variation. He doesnt pretend it doesnt happen, or hope that (“Jeez, who will notice, its such a big thick book anyway…”) many will simply fail to spot the changes. Hes playing fair. He warned us.
Defense, Part Two: We have all known Anduril will make its reforged appearance early in The Return of the King. We also know the fate of the Palantir of Orthanc, and that it will quickly, and importantly make its way into Aragorns hands. Those facts taken into consideration Aragorn will soon distract the eye of Sauron, as in the book and the evil one will conclude that Frodo is no longer a player. The ring was in Gondor and now This Guy shows up. This leads to an inevitable conclusion: The Changes in The Two Towers Leave Us In Almost Exactly The Same Place That Total Faithfulness Would Have Done. The remainder of the book versions of The Two Towers and The Return of the King can proceed on film next year, and give us what all of us knew would be the trilogys greatest installment, all along: the Finale.
Fairness to PJ again, compare the previous animated versions to his accomplishment. Allow me to refresh a few sad memories: Without reference to Eomer, with a Eowyn that looked like an animated honky-tonk waitress, Ralph Bakshi ended his version of the entire trilogy with an incomprehensible rendition of the battle of Helms deep, attacked by hordes of extras who looked less like orcs, and more like extras dressed in Rubber Gorilla Masks and Bedsheets. Once the battle was inexplicably won, the whole thing came to a screeching halt, never to move again.
Rankin Bass, skipped the entire second book, dumped Eomer, Legolas, Gimli, Arwen and countless others, and started their Return of the King film with Pippin saying in Casey Casems voice, Hes Looney, I tell ya! and had enough time to offer a musical number for the orcs of Mordor, the unforgettable Where Theres a Whip, Theres a Way, noted for its electric guitar work. One critic, I recall, suggested it as a possible new single for the Village People. I wish Id said that, so I have to quote it.
If you want to complain about something, start there. PJ survives comparisons, and then some. Is The Two Towers, then, the weakest installment in the eventual completed work? Probably. Is it a wonderful adaptation of the book, utterly necessary, and worthy of what has come before, and what will come after? I have no doubt that it is. Am I perfectly satisfied with it? No. Do I love it, and will I see it dozens of times, possibly hundreds? Of course. So will you.
A thrill of delight and a shiver go down my spine as Howard Shores music accompanies me straight back to Middle-Earth. I feel like I never left and am being reunited with friends wandering in a far-away land. However, I wonder with a slight apprehension how director Peter Jackson managed to make a fluid and lenghthy (179 minutes) movie out of a transitional book that is a patchwork of stories.
While Gandalf (Ian McKellen) battles with the Ballrog, Aragorn (Viggo Mortensen), Legolas (Orlando Bloom) and Gimli (Jonathan Rhys-Davies) follow the tracks of the Orcs that captured Pippin (Billy Boyd) and Merry (Dominic Monaghan) at the end of The Fellowship. Frodo and Sam have wandered away, fleeing their companions, to try and destroy the One Ring on their own. Very early on in the movie, the two hobbits find out that they are not alone: they catch Gollum, obsessed with his “precious”, which Bilbo Baggins took from him long ago. Welcome to, definitely, the most amazing and powerful character of the “Two Towers”: the scenes with Gollum, created digitally after the acting of Andy Serkis, who lends the character his voice, are out of this world, especially the swamp and river ones. The creature makes Yoda look like a nineteenth century puppet, not to mention the ridiculous Potter-like troll of the first batch. (By the way, I hear there is a giant spider in the new Potter movie. How about Shelob? Well, Ill let you discover for yourselves.) Gollum-Sméagols inner torments and sufferings and his bodily moves are incredibly well rendered, filling the audience with both repulsion and compassion, and having it in stitches. Mixed feelings felt by the two hobbits themselves, as Frodo decides to trust the creature, to Sams disapproval.
But there is a comical device that wants no compassion: even Eowyn has to laugh before the sight of the clumsy, ever-grumbling Gimli. Throughout the movie, the dwarfs lines crack the audience up. His strengthening brotherly relationship to Legolas (Orlando Bloom, as picture-perfect as ever) is well rendered, as are the elf’s and Aragorn’s (Viggo Mortensen) mutual respect and friendship. Aragorn himself is the other major character of “The Two Towers”. “Strider” – can he get more brave and manly ? – moves more and more center-stage, whereas Frodo (Elijah Wood, a bit too plump for a hobbit on the run – ) slowly fades away, drawn towards the power of the Ring, and stirs up less sympathy, although his own understanding of Gollums submission is very good. Again, a special motion to Sean Astins interpretation of Samwise, the ring bearer’s faithful companion.
Special motion, too, to the flesh-and-bones new characters, Eomer (Karl Urban), Faramir (David Wenham) and especially King Theoden (Bernard Hill) and malicious Wormtongue (Brad Dourif), all smoothly introduced in the plot by powerful scenes. Eowyn is beautifully played by Miranda Otto, and her rising feelings for Aragorn more powerfully rendered than the embarrassing elvish-spoken scenes between Aragorn and a slightly too-etherial Arwen (Liv Tyler).
Of course, “The Two Towers” would be nothing without the special effects. Characters – Gollum and a Treebeard which should delight all children big and small and scenes leave you gasping for breath. If the fight between Gandalf and the Ballrog is whirlwinding, the destruction of Isengard by the ents right out of a children’s book, and the Black Gate phenomenal, the epitome of the whole movie is undoubtedly the formidable battle of Helms Deep, much more powerful than in the novel. I was clinging to my seat, as I was litteraly swept off my feet. One wonders how Jackson will manage to outgrow himself – as he undoubtedly will – for “The Return of The King”.
However, the movie does have its flaws. The overusing of slow-motion and close-ups make some scenes, such as the arrival of Shadowfax or Legolass ridiculous horse-jumping, heavy and unsubtle. The movie at time lacks the novels finesse. The beautiful filming of Arwens escape scene from “The Fellowship” is repeated too often, as are the breathtaking – aerial landscape shots. Edoras castle looks shabby, and Sams fall before the Black Gate is unconvincing.
“The Two Towers” is less emotionnal and moving than the introductionnal Fellowship”, and the shere wonder I felt last year has left room for more expectation, as Ive read the Two Towers in the meantime. But the second batch is wittier, filled with irony and a sense of desperate urge. Whereas The Fellowships end was slow in coming, The Two Towers just dashes before your eyes.
The remaining question is, will I read The Return of The King” before Christmas 2003? Having seen The Two Towers, Ive decided to wait and see the movie. The best testimony I could give to Peter Jackson’s achievement.
The Bravo channel (in the US only it seems) is showcasing our own Ian McKellen in ‘Inside the Actors Studio’ tonight at 8PM. Right after that show, there will be a ‘Celebrity Profile’ with Cate Blanchett (Galadriel).
Meanwhile Monday night (December 9th) Bravo will feature a ‘Page To The Screen’ special on the LOTR films.
Bravo Canada meanwhile will feature a show called ‘J.R.R. Tolkien: Master of the Rings’ which is described as: this documentary features interviews with the author and his family, a 3-D map of Middle Earth, a plot outline of the trilogy and commentary from artists influenced by the books. look for that on Dec. 15, at 7:30pm ET.
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Gollum has fled, and Sam confronts Shelob in what must rate as one of the most mismatched battles in the history of Middle Earth. Sam is able to drive Shelob off, showing a beserker-like attitude, and bravery worthy of – or exceeding – heroes such as Hurin and Turin.
The Choices of Master Samwise
However, as Elrond pointed out during the Council, bravery in battle cannot win the way to Mount Doom, and Sam is left with some dark choices if the quest is to be completed.
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