{"id":93947,"date":"2014-11-07T22:14:31","date_gmt":"2014-11-08T03:14:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/?p=93947"},"modified":"2014-11-15T01:09:22","modified_gmt":"2014-11-15T06:09:22","slug":"analysing-the-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-preview-in-the-desolation-of-smaug-extended-edition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2014\/11\/07\/93947-analysing-the-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-preview-in-the-desolation-of-smaug-extended-edition\/","title":{"rendered":"Analysing The Battle of The Five Armies preview in The Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition"},"content":{"rendered":"

Our friends over El Anillo Unico<\/a> have assembled this outstanding analysis of the content of The Battle of the Five Armies preview that you can find in Appendix 9 of The Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition.<\/p>\n

We’re delighted to be able to bring you a full English translation of their thoughts and speculation. Note: any mistakes or errors are mine, not theirs. <\/p>\n

Usual warning: SPOILERS<\/font> ahead.<\/p>\n

Analysing The Battle of The Five Armies preview in The Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition<\/h3>\n

By the staff of Elanillounico.com<\/a>.<\/b><\/p>\n

In the same way as the last year, among the extra content of The Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition there is a little preview of The Hobbit: The Battle of The Five Armies. You can find it in Appendix Part 9 under the title Into the Fire<\/i>. <\/p>\n

It’s actually a very short preview, just four and half minutes long. The official duration is 7:57, but the last three minutes or so are credits.<\/p>\n

Before the beginning, we want to remind that the following information has important SPOILERS<\/font> as much to those who had read the book as to the people who don’t. So, if you don’t want to know several things the day you’ll go to the cinema to watch The Hobbit: The Battle of The Five Armies, you should stop reading.<\/p>\n

If you have decided to continue reading, we want to repeat the same things as in previous analysis, sometimes we don’t have confirmed information so we just give our opinion or either our interpretation of the snaps we can see — we could be right or we could be wrong. <\/p>\n

Also, we have tried to organise them chronologically to follow the story in the same way we’ll see at the cinema. Still, with a preview so short, it’s hard to know how accurate this outline could be.<\/p>\n

Smaug attacks Lake-town<\/h4>\n\n\n
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We have already seen pictures of this moment in the alternative version of the eighth vlog that was showed in the San Diego’s Comic-Con two years ago, but we think it’s interesting getting back them and with a better resolution. <\/p>\n\n\n
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We can also see the houses and buildings from Esgaroth burning down, and also Luke Evans is jumping from roof to roof with his bow and his quiver full of arrows, but without the Black Arrow.<\/p>\n\n\n
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We think these snaps from the pre-visualization monitor are interesting too. There, we can see Smaug flying over Lake-town while a man is waiting him with his bow climbed in a bell tower. Maybe this man is Bard.<\/p>\n

Ravenhill<\/h4>\n\n\n
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It seems that some part of the action from the movie will take part in the guard-post of Ravenhill, which could be seen<\/a> in the prologue of An Unexpected Journey when the Dwarves fled from Smaug. It’s also in one of the posters<\/a> and banners<\/a> of the present movie.<\/p>\n\n\n
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Here we can also see these two pictures from the previsualization showing what seems to be the Ravenhill, a mockup of its inside and an outline of a frozen river that falls in a waterfall and which bed runs near some structures that look Dwarf-built.<\/p>\n

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In addition, in this image, the set we can see at the back of the room is similar to the conceptual art picture we saw before. This is a snap from the last day of the pick-ups<\/a>, because Peter Jackson posted one photo of the people disguised as penguins explaining that they were actually fulfilling a purpose although apparently we could think otherwise. <\/p>\n

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The dwarves come out of Erebor<\/h4>\n\n\n
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While you are seeing these images, you can hear Peter Jackson saying that “The Dwarves have just come out of the mountain. It\u2019s all looking good, but suddenly boom! The news arrives, they find out that everything is going to get worse”. <\/p>\n

[The elanillounico folks note: The exact quote of Peter Jackson is at 3 minutes and 30 seconds of the video. Their digital edition lacks English subtitles on the extras, so quotes may be a tiny bit off. I don’t own the EE myself.] <\/p>\n

It could be possible that before Men and Elves reach Erebor, Bilbo and the Dwarves explore around the Lonely Mountain in search of water and food? It could be that Bilbo and his group were in Ravenhill guard-post? <\/p>\n

They still wear the same clothes as in the end of the previous film, and these scenes could correspond to this that we saw in the teaser trailer<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n
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It might be also possible that they come down to the city of Dale? And therefore, the image of Thorin in Dale that we believed belonged to a scene of Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition, actually belongs to a scene of the third movie?<\/p>\n

Gandalf and Galadriel in Dol Guldur<\/h4>\n

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First, you can see an image of Ian McKellen with the action figure that serves as a double of Gandalf. It will be dragged by Galadriel at some point during the assault of the White Council to Dol Guldur.<\/p>\n\n\n
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[Editor’s note:<\/i> The El Anillo Unico guys explain the that next pair of screencaps are ones for the Galadalf<\/a> shippers<\/a> — and I guess to drive everyone else nuts :D.]<\/p>\n

The armour of the Dwarves<\/h4>\n\n\n
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In this preview you can see some of the Dwarves clad in the armour that will be used in the movie. According to Graham McTavish, it’s “the Dwarf regal armor”.<\/p>\n\n\n
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Thorin, King under the Mountain<\/h4>\n\n\n
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We don\u2019t really know where in the movie these images belong. The first one is a forefront of Richard Armitage\u2019s crowning, and the second one could be Thorin’s head putting out from the bulwark the Dwarves have built in Erebor. <\/p>\n

The Dwarves’ chariot<\/h4>\n

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These pictures confirm that Dwalin, Balin, Fili and Kili are the Dwarves getting on the chariot that has given people lot to talk about. We still don\u2019t know whether the scene is taken from the Battle of the Five Armies, or just before it. [Updated translation courtesy of Ringer Jen]<\/p>\n

[Editor’s note: I think it must occur in the lead-up to the battle. The dwarves are seeking help or reinforcements. Might be related to Dain and his army of dwarves.]<\/p>\n

Wargs attack the Dwarves\u2019 chariot<\/h4>\n\n\n
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As suspected from the teaser trailer pictures, a pack of wargs attack the cart where Dwalin, Balin Fili and Kili are getting on. And, as can be seen from the preview pictures, one menaces the ram.<\/p>\n

The battle in Dale\u2019s ruins.<\/h4>\n\n\n
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Remember that, according to the published in an article<\/a> by the German magazine Cinema, in the movie, the survivors of Esgaroth will arrive at Dale followed by a group of Orcs. However, the Orcs will be defeated by the Elves of Mirkwood. <\/p>\n

In the end, we could see Thranduil staring the dead bodies in the streets, sad and annoyed. Maybe these two pictures belong to before the coming of Gandalf to Dale because you can see in the first picture that the men are not organized enough and the Elves come to the rescue in the last moment. <\/p>\n

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The deal with Thorin<\/h4>\n\n\n
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Fili, Thorin, Kili, Nori, Bofur, \u00d3in, Bombur and the rest of Dwarves on the parapet of Erebor listen to the words of Bard, Gandalf and Thranduil. Note the hair of Nori. Maybe he has forgotten the wig. <\/p>\n

The following is pictures of Ian McKellen, Luke Evans and Lee Pace (without any make up) reciting the script. <\/p>\n

\n“Come. Give us your answer. Will you have peace, or war?”, Bard asks.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Bard the leader of Men<\/h4>\n\n\n
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Bard becomes the leader of the men who have survived the assault of Erebor by Smaug.<\/p>\n

“Any Man who wants to give the last, follow me!” shouts Evans.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Dwarves go into battle<\/h4>\n\n\n\n\n
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In these pictures we can see the different Dwarves from Thorin\u2019s company in the heat of the battle. <\/p>\n

In some of them it seems that they are in a sort of esplanade; in other it seems they are in the guard of Ravenhill. In spite of this, in most of them it\u2019s very difficult to know where they are because in most of the scenes they are surrounded almost exclusively by the ubiquitous chroma.<\/p>\n

Battle previews<\/h4>\n\n\n
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We also see various conceptual art sketches and previews of the battle. In the first conceptual art sketch a Dwarf is on the back of a boar that looks towards a troll covered with several orcs while the battle unfolds in the background. <\/p>\n

[Editor’s note: some have suggested this might be Dain. If so, it’s an early design I think. Everything points to Dain’s final look actually being quite different — red hair and such.]<\/p>\n\n\n
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In the first image above we see what appears to be a horde of Orcs charging against the Elves or Men. In the second image we see a colossal troll with a sort of \u2018wrecking ball\u2019, Orcs destroying a stone wall. Yet another shows one of the Dwarven statues rolling down the mountain. Is this the result of bombardment from Orc catapults, or have the Dwarves done this on purpose to finish them off?<\/p>\n\n\n
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In the third image we see a troll taken down by several Dwarves (one of them clearly appears to be Fili), and in the fourth we see a group of Orcs storming what could be the Erebor parapet or some other wall from Ravenhill.<\/p>\n

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The battle in the ruins of Dale<\/h4>\n\n\n
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It is highly likely that these images belong to the Battle of the Five Armies as Bard is seen with his new wardrobe still wielding the sword of his ancestor Girion, and in general the sensation is given that the Men are more organized.<\/p>\n\n\n
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In the second image, Jackson tells McKellen that in this battle, “The tone of this fight is, you know, fighting to the last men, it\u2019s not victory…”<\/p>\n

Bilbo’s emotional moments<\/h4>\n\n\n
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In the first image with two monitors we see a scene in which Gandalf approaches Bilbo who appears to be in a state of shock. It’s probably after the battle — Bilbo has chainmail. In the second we see Bilbo with blood on his face, crying.<\/p>\n

Various images that don’t seem to fit<\/h4>\n\n\n
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There are some images which do not appear to fit in with the others, generally just images from filming. In the first two, we see Armitage filming a scene while Jackson observes without missing a detail.<\/p>\n\n\n
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Jackson is seen hugging McKellen in an emotional moment with Freeman smiling. Could this be McKellen’s last day shooting? The last image is another somewhat blurry sketch of the battle. Perhaps it is the effect of the Ring, with Bilbo putting the ring on at some moment during the battle?<\/p>\n

El Anillo Unico<\/a> (The One Ring) is a leading Spanish site for Tolkien and Lord of the Rings\/Hobbit films news and features.<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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