{"id":87970,"date":"2014-03-26T12:09:19","date_gmt":"2014-03-26T17:09:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/?p=87970"},"modified":"2014-03-26T12:09:19","modified_gmt":"2014-03-26T17:09:19","slug":"deadline-estimates-the-hobbit-desolation-of-smaug-reaps-134-1-million-profit-for-warner-bros","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2014\/03\/26\/87970-deadline-estimates-the-hobbit-desolation-of-smaug-reaps-134-1-million-profit-for-warner-bros\/","title":{"rendered":"Deadline estimates The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug reaps $134.1 million profit for Warner Bros."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"intro\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www-images.theonering.org\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Desolation-of-Smaug-Poster-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Desolation of Smaug Poster\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-83486 no-lazyload\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Desolation-of-Smaug-Poster-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Desolation-of-Smaug-Poster-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Desolation-of-Smaug-Poster-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Desolation-of-Smaug-Poster-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Desolation-of-Smaug-Poster-75x75.jpg 75w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Desolation-of-Smaug-Poster.jpg 607w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/> Box office reporting focuses heavily on ticket sales and revenue numbers. So it&#8217;s no secret that (according to latest Box Office Mojo numbers) The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug has pulled in just over $944 million in ticket sales.<\/p>\n<p>Profit figures, on the other hand, tend to be more opaque and mysterious.<\/p>\n<p>However, movie website Deadline | Hollywood has crunched some numbers with a number of &#8220;experts&#8221; as part of its effort to unearth the most valuable blockbuster of 2013. By its calculation, the second film in Peter Jackson&#8217;s Hobbit sequence has (thus far) made a profit of $134.1 million.<\/p>\n<p>Just how did they do it? <\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www-images.theonering.org\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/desolation-of-smaug-gross-profit-estimate.jpg\" alt=\"desolation of smaug gross profit estimate\" width=\"756\" height=\"1053\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-87972 no-lazyload\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/desolation-of-smaug-gross-profit-estimate.jpg 756w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/desolation-of-smaug-gross-profit-estimate-215x300.jpg 215w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/desolation-of-smaug-gross-profit-estimate-735x1024.jpg 735w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/desolation-of-smaug-gross-profit-estimate-600x835.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 756px) 100vw, 756px\" \/><br \/>\n<b>The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug profit breakdown. Source: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadline.com\/2014\/03\/hobbit-smaug-hunger-games-catching-fire-profit-most-profitable-movie-2013\/\" target=\"_blank\">Deadline | Hollywood<\/a>.<\/b><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<h4>Explaining the earnings<\/h4>\n<p>Disregard the calculations for The Hunger Games: Catching Fire in the second column &#8212; it&#8217;s part of the head-to-head thing that Deadline is conducting.<\/p>\n<p>The first thing to realise (and it took me a little bit of research to work it out) is that that enormous $944 million global box office is split a number of different ways. Nominally at least (Hollywood accounting practises are notoriously dubious), distributors and theatres are taking a goodly chunk of that gross.<\/p>\n<p>How big?<\/p>\n<p>Well, according to Deadline&#8217;s figures, USA domestic distributors and theatres are taking just under half the domestic box office, while Warner Bros. sees a mere 42.9% of the foreign take and as little as 23.4% of the Chinese gross. The remainder &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.the-numbers.com\/glossary.php#theatrical_rental\" target=\"_blank\">named Theatrical Rental<\/a> &#8212; is Warner Bros. income. Thus, of that $944.2 million, only $420.3 will make its way to Warner Bros. coffers.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s why, according to Deadline, even with other revenues (telly and etc.) factored in, Warner Bros.&#8217; gross revenue from The Desolation of Smaug will hit only (only!) $795.6 million.<\/p>\n<h4>Accounting for the expenses<\/h4>\n<p>Deadline puts Desolation of Smaug&#8217;s production cost at $260 million. I&#8217;m not entirely certain how they arrived at that, I&#8217;ve seen figures as low as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment\/news\/la-et-ct-box-office-hobbit-desolation-smaug-20131216,0,3005168.story\" target=\"_blank\">$225 million<\/a>, and others as high as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boxoffice.com\/statistics\/movies\/the-hobbit-there-and-back-again-2013\" target=\"_blank\">$295 million<\/a> (the latter admittedly including printing and advertising costs).<\/p>\n<p>Yet Deadline lists printing and advertising (domestic and international) costs as an additional $155 million. <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a puzzle, but <a href=\"http:\/\/io9.com\/5747305\/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable\">this article<\/a> on io9 gives some insights.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to Contrino, the Print &#038; Advertising (P&#038;A) costs of a movie can be incredibly high \u2014 for a small $20 million film, the promotional budget can be higher than the production budget. That&#8217;s because those films are often romantic comedies or kids&#8217; movies, which are cheap to make but still need a lot of promotion. For a film which cost between $35 and $75 million to make, the P&#038;A budget will most likely be at least half the production budget. And the numbers only go up with bigger films. &#8220;If the studio spends a lot on the budget, they&#8217;re going to want to protect that investment by advertising it heavily,&#8221; says Contrino.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If Deadline is correct, the amount invested on marketing The Desolation of Smaug&#8217;s around the world clocked in at more than half its estimated production budget.<\/p>\n<p>Rights payments presumably include royalties to the late Saul Zaentz&#8217;s Middle-earth Enterprises as well as to Tolkien Estate, while Participations refers to payments to actors, writers and directors as a percentage of either gross or net profit. And overheads seems to be calculated at <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hollywood_accounting\" target=\"_blank\">a straight 15%<\/a> of the production budget.<\/p>\n<p>According to Deadline, all these factors mean that the total cost of making, marketing and putting The Desolation of Smaug on screen add up to a sizeable $661.4 million.<\/p>\n<h4>Return on investment<\/h4>\n<p>Which brings us to the bottom line &#8212; a profit of $134.1 million. As Deadline calculates, that&#8217;s a cash return on cash invested of 20% (134m\/661m x 100). It&#8217;s a return on investment that as best I can tell compares favourably against other forms of investment &#8212; the 10-year (to December 31, 2013) performance of the the S&#038;P 500 is an average annual total return of 7.40%. US bonds, as gauged by the Barclays Aggregate U.S. Bond Index, average 4.55% annually over the same period. <\/p>\n<p>The numbers for The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (an ROI of an unbelievable 200%) illustrate even more starkly (in big, fat $$$ signs) the reason studios relentlessly chase blockbuster success. <\/p>\n<p>Of course, the flipside is the greater risk involved. Stocks and bonds, generally, offer a safer investment. For every profitable film, there&#8217;s a long list of grand commercial failures that see studios losing tens of millions of dollars. And that&#8217;s the hard calculus under all that creative accounting.<\/p>\n<p><i>Note: This is mostly an attempt to puzzle out the numbers. I am not an expert (in this area at least). If there&#8217;s anything I&#8217;ve missed, or seems out of whack, leave a note in the comments or drop me a note at demosthenes at the onering dot net.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Box office reporting focuses heavily on ticket sales and revenue numbers. 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