{"id":86432,"date":"2014-01-25T04:30:20","date_gmt":"2014-01-25T09:30:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/?p=86432"},"modified":"2014-01-25T04:30:20","modified_gmt":"2014-01-25T09:30:20","slug":"hall-of-fire-chat-tomorrow-did-jackson-break-the-fanbase","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2014\/01\/25\/86432-hall-of-fire-chat-tomorrow-did-jackson-break-the-fanbase\/","title":{"rendered":"Hall of Fire chat tomorrow: did Jackson break the fanbase?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"intro\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www-images.theonering.org\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/barli_logo4_sm.jpg\" alt=\"Barliman&#039;s Chat\" width=\"239\" height=\"100\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-63495 no-lazyload\" \/> Disagreement and argument is inevitable in any fandom. However, there&#8217;s a point where the disgreements become so vehement, and the positions of the sides so entrenched that constructive debate becomes impossible.<\/p>\n<p>At that point you have what media and fandom wiki TV Tropes calls a <a href=\"http:\/\/tvtropes.org\/pmwiki\/pmwiki.php\/Main\/BrokenBase\" target=\"_blank\">Broken (Fan)Base<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This is the topic that we&#8217;ll be examining tomorrow in The Hall of Fire: is the Tolkien\/Lord of the Rings fanbase irretrievably broken, and did Peter Jackson break it with The Hobbit?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Can we still constructively debate Jackson&#8217;s adaptations any more without having to &#8220;agree to disagree&#8221;, or falling into flamewars? <\/p>\n<p>And if we cannot, can this be put down to a single root cause, or is it the result of a number of editorial and production decisions? Or a people (fans) simply too demanding?<\/p>\n<p>Join us at 5pm EST Saturday in the Hall of Fire for what&#8217;s sure to be a lively discussion!<\/p>\n<p><b>Time zone conversions<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Go <a href=\"http:\/\/www.timeanddate.com\/worldclock\/fixedtime.html?msg=Hall+of+Fire%3A+Did+Jackson+break+the+fanbase%3F&#038;iso=20140125T17&#038;p1=179&#038;ah=1\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> to see when the chat begins in your timezone. Or consult the list below.<\/p>\n<p>America:<br \/>\n5.00pm EST (New York)<br \/>\n4.00pm CST (Chicago)<br \/>\n3.00pm MST (Denver)<br \/>\n2.00pm PST (Los Angeles)<\/p>\n<p>Europe:<br \/>\n10.00pm GMT (London)<br \/>\n11.00pm CST (Paris)<br \/>\nMidnight EEST (Helsinki)<\/p>\n<p>Asia-Pacific<br \/>\n8.00am AEST (Sunday) Brisbane<br \/>\n9.00am AEDT (Sunday) Sydney, Melbourne<br \/>\n11.00am NZDT (Sunday) Wellington<\/p>\n<p><b>How long do your topic chats go for?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Our chats usually last from an hour to ninety minutes, and are very newbie friendly. Simply drop in and join the conversation! However, our main room, #theonering.net is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/chat\">open 24 hours a day<\/a>. 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