{"id":26257,"date":"2002-10-21T21:32:14","date_gmt":"2002-10-22T02:32:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2002\/10\/21\/4-disc-extended-version-a-consumer-rip-off\/"},"modified":"2002-10-21T21:32:14","modified_gmt":"2002-10-22T02:32:14","slug":"4-disc-extended-version-a-consumer-rip-off","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2002\/10\/21\/26257-4-disc-extended-version-a-consumer-rip-off\/","title":{"rendered":"4-Disc Extended Version a Consumer Rip-off?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"intro\">Greetings &#8212; Quickbeam here. <\/p>\n<p>I have to take a moment to comment on all this DVD craziness.  <\/p>\n<p>Most people around here are shouting to the rafters with joy.  They are wildly happy that the new Extended Version DVD of <i>The Fellowship of the Ring<\/i> is about to come out.  Rave reviews are springing up all over the Net; and on major DVD websites like <b>The Digital Bits<\/b> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedigitalbits.com\/reviews2\/lotrfellowship4disca.html\">[click here]<\/a> we see praise like this from editor Bill Hunt: &#8220;Its overall presentation quality, breadth and depth of content and thoughtful attention to virtually every detail is unsurpassed in any other DVD release to date.&#8221;  That&#8217;s pretty strong praise! <\/p>\n<p>But others are whining that the &#8220;bait and switch&#8221; routine is pulling extra dollars out of their pockets and in general making a big stink.  I&#8217;ve seen articles in the <b>L.A. Times<\/b> <a href=\"http:\/\/events.calendarlive.com\/top\/1,1419,L-LATimes-Movies-X!ArticleDetail-68283,00.html\">[click here]<\/a> where consumers and LOTR fans are portrayed as annoyed &#8212; even <i>shocked<\/i> that New Line should &#8220;undercut their customers&#8221; like that.  Over-the-top entertainment writer Glenn Lovell had a colossal hissy-fit in the <b>Boston Globe<\/b> online edition <a href=\"http:\/\/ae.boston.com\/news\/daily\/08\/14\/lord_rings_dvd.html\">[click here]<\/a>.  He nearly burst a vein when he found out in August that his new 2-Disc DVD was just a regular edition.  In his view, New Line Cinema is &#8220;shameless&#8221; and &#8220;consumed by greed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Settle down, Glenn.  Please. <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to say some things here that may sound suspicious.  I promise you I am not a studio brown-noser trying to score points with the people behind the scenes.  I am <i>so not<\/i> interested in that.  I have nothing to gain here.  So if I sound like I am rushing to the defense of a big corporation, well, it&#8217;s not really that simple.  I am a huge DVD enthusiast &#8212; with a collection of hundreds of movies.  I love everything about the digital format and just want to clear up the air.  I&#8217;m telling you this as an <b>informed consumer.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>New Line is not really &#8220;ripping us off,&#8221; as so many claim.  I truly see the reason in this, and I also sense the careful hand of Peter Jackson, trying to do that little extra something for us.  Releasing separate DVD editions makes perfect sense&#8230;. <\/p>\n<p>&#8230;. as long as we are told AHEAD OF TIME! <\/p>\n<p>The keys here are the economics of the market&#8230;. and more importantly the information that includes you, the consumer, in what is going on. <\/p>\n<p>Consider what it would look like if New Line released a full <b>6-disc<\/b> Giant-Goliath, Super-Duper, Mega-Deluxe Edition DVD with both versions of the film and endless hours of supplements.  That retail package would be so costly to produce and distribute it would of course be <i>very costly<\/i> for consumers to buy.  We&#8217;re talking upwards of $80 where most people usually spend $19.99 for a new DVD title on sale.  Yes, I look for those sales!  Few of us, including me, would be able to buy this item within their regular &#8220;entertainment budget.&#8221;  I&#8217;m a working class Joe just like the rest of you. <\/p>\n<p>Breaking these DVDs down into separate releases seems to satisfy all of us.  There&#8217;s the regular movie fans who just want to own &#8220;that cool fantasy flick&#8221; they saw in theatres.  Then, of course, there&#8217;s us.  We are toughest to please&#8230;. and want all the juicy bits of creativity that P.J. and WETA can show us.  We are the true connoisseurs.  So he went back to make that 4-Disc set with all that extra footage for us.  Really, he made it with us in mind: to feed the &#8220;high-end appetite&#8221; of true Tolkien fans.  I&#8217;m not going to buy that regular edition, I know that film and have experienced enough of it.  This Extended version is what I <i>really<\/i> want.  I am now free to choose. <\/p>\n<p>Do I sound like an educated consumer?  Well, I am.  And that&#8217;s because New Line <b>actually told us <\/b>ahead of time there will be different editions!!  Yeah, it is totally surprising, considering the way most studios treat the home video consumer.  <\/p>\n<p>Look, if you want to be really mad, why don&#8217;t you get mad at Paramount?  They totally suck.  Look at what they did with the <i>Star Trek<\/i> movies on DVD:  releasing each film with a pedestrian regular DVD (most of them awful transfers, not even anamorphic widescreen) then coming back just a couple of years later to give us &#8220;real special director&#8217;s editions.&#8221;  Now THAT is something worth complaining about.  Now I have to go back and re-purchase all my <i>Star Trek<\/i> if I want the clean, restored, anamorphic discs with all the goodies.  I hate Paramount for that.  That is truly &#8220;double-dipping.&#8221;  I&#8217;m even more angry with Warner Bros.  They just made me go out and get the new <i>Amadeus<\/i> Director&#8217;s Cut, which beats by a mile that crappy old DVD they had released.  Oh, don&#8217;t get me started on Disney.  They&#8217;re the worst. <\/p>\n<p>It is highly unusual for New Line Cinema to have a big press release and spread the word through all the Tolkien fan sites that we have a choice.  Pick one.  Pick the other.  At least we were honestly told early on.  So why on earth are all these people bitching and moaning?  Of course the studio is making a boat-load of money off these titles.  So what?  You can still put your money on what you like best.  There was no surprise here&#8230;. the information was readily available.  I think we should say &#8220;Thank you New Line&#8221; for the courtesy! <\/p>\n<p>But especially we should remember that P.J. wanted to do it this way.  Again it feels like he&#8217;s putting forth a lot of extra effort just to please his fans. <\/p>\n<p>Much too hasty,<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"mailto:quickbeam@theonering.net\">Quickbeam<\/a><\/p>\n<p><center>Comments? Tell us what you think with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/rumour_mill\/rpg\/viewer\/main\/3DB4BD2B0005EE7B.html\">Talkback<\/a><\/center><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings &#8212; Quickbeam here. I have to take a moment to comment on all this DVD craziness. 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