{"id":25580,"date":"2003-06-22T20:23:12","date_gmt":"2003-06-23T01:23:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2003\/06\/22\/elvish-lesson-transcript-06-18-03\/"},"modified":"2003-06-22T20:23:12","modified_gmt":"2003-06-23T01:23:12","slug":"elvish-lesson-transcript-06-18-03","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2003\/06\/22\/25580-elvish-lesson-transcript-06-18-03\/","title":{"rendered":"Elvish Lesson Transcript 06-18-03"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"intro\">[Annatar] Elen sila lumenn&#8217; omentielvo\/ \/Paul, Kris, and Jeff here, we&#8217;ll be ready to start @ 8<br \/>[jincey] hiya annatar : ))<br \/>[Annatar] Hello eveyone. we are Paul Dunne, Kris Nelson, and Jeff Sherrill, and we do a Panel on Elvish<br \/>[Annatar] Welcome, and please bear with us as we try to get our footing<br \/>[jincey] everyone, i&#8217;d like to introduce you to three really cool guys i met in atlanta a few years ago<br \/>[jincey] jeff sherrill, paul dunne, and kris nelson have been teaching elvish for several years at atlanta&#8217;s dragon*con <br \/>[Annatar] We are not the big experts on Elvish, or anything, but we have been studying it using the resources available in print and on the web<br \/>[jincey] tonight they are here on one computer, known collectively as annatar<br \/>[Annatar] What we thought we&#8217;d do is see where people&#8217;s interest is, and show some of the places we use for information<br \/>[Annatar] First of all how many people here are acutally interested in learning the Elish language?<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] Right now, I&#8217;m gathering a list of Elvish words, then would like to learn sentence structure.<br \/>[Estel_MM] i am<br \/>[Zerolene] i&#8217;m with ML<br \/>[Morodiel] Me too<br \/>[Cer] yep<br \/>[Zerolene] in fact, i was just about to say about the same thing<br \/>[Jackie] same here<br \/>[HannaBoffin] I would like to also learn some vocabulary<br \/>[KingofGondolin] yep<br \/>[Raziel] Me too i&#8217;m learning quenya from Helge Favskanger&#8217;s docs<br \/>[Annatar] Maeglin, excellent.  There is a wonderful way to learn the sentence structure on Helge&#8217;s site, ArdaLambion<br \/>[Toe] sentence structure would be good<br \/>[Kriinge] Oh uhm i want to learn what they want to learn<br \/>[Annatar] HannaBoffin, Helge&#8217;s ArdaLambion does have a Quenya Corpus word list<br \/>[Raziel] and so much more\\<br \/>[Annatar] <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ardalambion.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.ardalambion.com<\/a><br \/>[HannaBoffin] yes, but is that the best way to start? vocab first, and then structure<br \/>[HannaBoffin] I have checked out ardalambion&#8230;it is HUGE!<br \/>[Kriinge] I just really want to learn because I&#8217;m curious. and interested.<br \/>[Zerolene] what&#8217;s the difference between the 3 types of elvish?<br \/>[Annatar] that is the ardalambion site run by Helg Fauskanger<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] I have the Sindarin dictionary, but I think the original website I downloaded it from is down.<br \/>[Cer] yeah<br \/>[Raziel] no, he has a tutorial, a quenya course, by no means just vocab<br \/>[Alorin] I&#8217;d like to see what you have to say about the Sindarin sentence structure.. Not much info to get about that anywhere<br \/>[Annatar] Zerolene, first there is Quenya which is the primary almost root language<br \/>[Annatar] second there is Sindarin which ultimately dirives from the more basic Quenya<br \/>[Annatar] not certain what you believe to be the third language&#8230;.Quenya and Sindarin are the basic two<br \/>[Zerolene] what&#8217;s tengwar.. or something&#8230; i dunno, i heard people talking about it<br \/>[Estel_MM] elvish writing Zerolene<br \/>[Zerolene] oh, k<br \/>[Kriinge] ooooh I see. <br \/>[Toe] Is there anywhere that teaches the black tongue of mordor?<br \/>[Annatar] Tengwar is actually not a language per sae&#8230;.it is the rune forms that the Elvish (and any particular) language can be writen in<br \/>[Raziel] i have tengwar font on my comp<br \/>[Annatar] Toe, there is not nearly enough information about the black speach to learn it<br \/>[Toe] Any where with even a few words or phrases?<br \/>[Annatar] as far We know there are only a few words and no whole sentances (except for the ring inscription)<br \/>[Raziel] yeah, just  or 3 sentences, the message on the ring and Orc&#8217;s curse<br \/>[Toe] ok<br \/>[Raziel] if you can call the curse a sentence<br \/>[Morodiel] I believe the Grey Havens has a small piece on it<br \/>[Toe] any dwarvish?<br \/>[Raziel] Ugluk to to the cesspool dung-filth sha saruman-fool skai<br \/>[Annatar] Alorin, as for Sindarin sentance structure there is not much to be found.<br \/>[Alorin] Is there anything?<br \/>[HannaBoffin] Is there any written material\/books that one could purchase to learn quenya? <br \/>[Annatar] <a href=&#148;http:\/\/www.elvish.org\/gwaith\/language.htm\" target=\"_blank\">www.elvish.org<\/a><br \/>[Annatar] you can find what there is find about Sindarin here<br \/>[Morodiel] They have an article on Khuzdul, which I believe is dwarvish&#8230;<br \/>[jincey] what is your opinion of ruth noells book? ; )<br \/>[Raziel] Is that Tolkien?<br \/>[Raziel] he looks&#8230; nice<br \/>[Annatar] HannaBoffin, there is first of all a Quenya tutorial at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ardalambion.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.ardalambion.com<\/a><br \/>[Annatar] Ruth Noell&#8217;s book is not a very good source <br \/>[jincey] can you please explain why?<br \/>[Raziel] why?<br \/>[Annatar] It is a good start point<br \/>[Raziel] never read it<br \/>[Annatar] Ruth Noell&#8217;s book has been superceeded<br \/>[Raziel] ???<br \/>[Annatar] The History of Middle Earth has many things about the languages that discredit Ruth Noell<br \/>[jincey] she wrote her book long before HoMe came out i think<br \/>[Annatar] As and example, The Lost Road has a part called the Etymologies which superceed Ruth Noell&#8217;s interpretations<br \/>[Guest802556911] I&#8217;m interested learning how to piece together small sindarin sentences for fan fiction?  What&#8217;s the best way to start?<br \/>[Annatar] You can find &#8220;Movie Sindarin&#8221; at <a href=&#148;http:\/\/www.elvish.org\/gwaith\/language.htm\" target=\"_blank\">www.elvish.org<\/a><br \/>[Jackie] yes, I&#8217;d also like to learn sentence structure for Sindarin<br \/>[Annatar] O.k. there is not much availible about Sindarin sentance structure.  Other that the link I just mentioned<br \/>[Annatar] though We&#8217;ll see what We can come up with for you next week<br \/>[HannaBoffin] Pronunciation is another matter altogether, but also interesting to me \ud83d\ude42<br \/>[Annatar] Unfortunately the most fully worked out grammar<br \/>[Annatar] is Quenya<br \/>[Guest802556911] I found a site that translated and parsed out the Sindarin used in the films and it was useful.  It may have been the site you quoted<br \/>[Annatar] for that the best resourse is <a href=&#148;http:\/\/www.ardalambion.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.ardalambion.com<\/a><br \/>[Raziel] Why do you say unfortunately?<br \/>[Raziel] Quenya is a beautiful and well-structured language<br \/>[Annatar] I say unfortuately because most of the elvish words and pharases that you encounter in the books and movies is actually Sindarin<br \/>[Alorin] We all have our own favourite<br \/>[Annatar] Most of the Quenya is in the Silmarillion<br \/>[HannaBoffin] There was a lot said about the coaching the actors in LotR received in speaking elvish, was that Sindarin???<br \/>[Raziel] Quenta Silmarillon is mostly base don Quenya<br \/>[Raziel] lol<br \/>[Annatar] by the time of LOTR most people speak Sindarin not Quenya<br \/>[Annatar] acutally there is an even more basic Qenya which can only be found in HOME<br \/>[Guest802556911] Quenya is indeed well structured but when writing fan fiction not too useful as nobody in the third age speaks it as normal conversation.  It&#8217;s more ceremonial.<br \/>[Annatar] This is true Quest, though you&#8217;ll find more scholoarly studies in Quenya<br \/>[Raziel] Not useful if writing about the third age, yet you can write about a lot more then the War of the RING<br \/>[Annatar] Also should you wish to write say poetry&#8230;.Quenya is well suited<br \/>[Raziel] Good Point!<br \/>[Raziel] It&#8217;s very Musical<br \/>[Estel_MM] i agree<br \/>[jincey] is namarie quenya or sindarin?<br \/>[Raziel] QUENYA<br \/>[Estel_MM] quenya<br \/>[Annatar] yes the Namarie sung\/spoken by Galadriel is a good example of most Quenya grammar<br \/>[jincey] i have a clip of tolkien reading that<br \/>[Guest802556911] All very true, and I may just write some Sim based fan fic at some point.<br \/>[Estel_MM] me too<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] Is &#8220;navaer&#8221; its Sindarin equivalent?<br \/>[Raziel] never heard it?<br \/>[Annatar] The &#8220;Kings Letter&#8221; in Sauron Defeated (HOME V. IX) has a large chunk of Sindarin<br \/>[Alorin] Are the Sindarin pronouns immune to mutations? For example, Salos sentence &#8220;Lasto beth n&#8217;n&#8221;, with peth-]beth&#8230; Would &#8220;Bring him&#8221; translate into &#8220;Togo chon&#8221; or &#8220;Togo hon&#8221; from Togo + Hon?<br \/>[Annatar] Maeglin it could be&#8230;.<br \/>[SkyKing] what is a good recource for script\/caligraphy, i will be etching several swords over the next few months<br \/>[Annatar] Unfortunatly we do not understand Sindarin lenition very well right now<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] I had seen it posted on a website and someone in Barli&#8217;s used it as a farewell,  but it may be just that person&#8217;s interpretation&#8230;?<br \/>[Annatar] SkyKing, try this site <a href=&#148;http:\/\/hem.passagen.se\/mansb\/at\/\" target=\"_blank\">hem.passagen.se<\/a><br \/>[Raziel] I beg your pardon but does anyone know where to find HomE as ebooks, because you couldn&#8217;t find them in my country and importing them would cost me a fortune?<br \/>[Annatar] Raziel, we wish&#8230;..<br \/>[jincey] Raziel  please stick to the topic<br \/>[maegwen] slightly off topic though<br \/>[Raziel] sorry<br \/>[Annatar] actually Jincey that is a good thought, because HOME has a lot of resources for the linguistic side<br \/>[jincey] an ebook would be gargantuan<br \/>[Raziel] 12 ebooks<br \/>[Annatar] The the most important of the 12 books is &#8220;The Lost Road&#8221; V.V, &#8220;Sauron Defeated&#8221; V. IX, and War of the Jewels V. X<br \/>[Annatar] opps War of the Jewels is Vol. XI<br \/>[Raziel] i already have LOTR, Silm, UT, and letters, but not HoME<br \/>[Raziel] thanks jincey<br \/>[Alorin] Could you explain to me why Salo uses the infinitive of the verb Na- in the sentence &#8220;Nad no ennas.&#8221; instead of the present form N&acirc;?<br \/>[Alorin] This question has been bothering me for months =\/<br \/>[Annatar] Right off the tip of the toungue not certain, though We can look into it and give you an answer next week<br \/>[Annatar] You can also find Our e-mail adresses at <a href=&#148;http:\/\/www.frodocoita.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frodocoita.com<\/a><br \/>[Alorin] That&#8217;d be nice<br \/>[Annatar] who asked about pronunciation?<br \/>[Estel_MM] sry, but what\/who is Salo?<br \/>[HannaBoffin] me<br \/>[Alorin] David Salo, the linguist who constructed all sentences in the LotR movies<br \/>[Annatar] David Salo is partially responsible for the movie Sindarin<br \/>[Alorin] *all elvish sentences<br \/>[Estel_MM] ahh, ok thank you<br \/>[Raziel] nice<br \/>[Annatar] hold brb as inJvstice<br \/>[Raziel] Why did Cate Blanchette cut the a in eArendil in the movie?<br \/>[Raziel] i kinda noticed that and it bothered me<br \/>[inJvstice] o.k. I&#8217;m back was Annatar a moment ago<br \/>[Raziel] she pronounce erendil<br \/>[jincey] wb jeff and kris and paul : )<br \/>[inJvstice] Jeff typing now<br \/>[Raziel] Why did Cate Blanchette cut the a in eArendil in the movie?<br \/>[Raziel] she pronounced erendil<br \/>[inJvstice] perhaps you could call that dialect<br \/>[inJvstice] although this brings up a good point <br \/>[inJvstice] the diaresis above the &#8216;e&#8217; in Tolkien&#8217;s words indicates that that &#8216;e&#8217; is pronounced<br \/>[Raziel] Galadriel was around since the time of Feanor, she was in Valinor, i think she should have spoken the high language in its true form<br \/>[inJvstice] so in the name Earendil, you are correct.  The two vowels should be seperately pronounced<br \/>[Guest802556911] when constructing a phrase like &#8220;my little star&#8221; I have come up with &#8220;Gileg nin&#8221; because I read in one of the online grammar that &#8220;my&#8221; comes after the word it is modifying?  Is this right?<br \/>[inJvstice] ahhh Galadriel is not Cate Blanchett<br \/>[inJvstice] however, just for internal argument sake Galadriel had been in Middle for a very very very long time<br \/>[Raziel] i just said that<br \/>[inJvstice] Guest that would at least follow the Movie form of Sindarin<br \/>[Alorin] Well, I&#8217;d say that adjective following the noun is pretty well established?<br \/>[Guest802556911] The movie form by Salo?  How else would it be done?<br \/>[inJvstice] Guest, we&#8217;ll be getting into Sindarin grammar in a later session<br \/>[inJvstice] Salo made some interpretations to Sindarin in order to make it consistant and useable<br \/>[Guest802556911] InJvstice, thanks, I&#8217;ll ask then.<br \/>[inJvstice] Sindarin grammar is not nearly a worked out as Quenya,thus some interpretation was necessary<br \/>[Raziel] He shouldn&#8217;t have done that really, but bothering about those details is going too far, like asking why legolas was blonde in the  movie \ud83d\ude42<br \/>[inJvstice] right now we are pretty much looking to dissimlate the various sources one might use to learn the languages and Tengwar<br \/>[inJvstice] who is intersted in learning Tengwar?<br \/>[Estel_MM] i am<br \/>[SkyKing] i am<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] Me too<br \/>[Raziel] me3<br \/>[molrak] i am<br \/>[inJvstice] in the next week or two we hope to be able to run a lesson on how to write your name<br \/>[Estel_MM] nice<br \/>[Guest802556911] I would!<br \/>[SkyKing] i need it for etching script onto the swords i will be making in hte next month or two<br \/>[Raziel] i have the tengwar font at home, but don&#8217;t know how it&#8217;s structured<br \/>[inJvstice] for right now, however; there is a site at <a href=&#148;http:\/\/hem.passagen.se\/mansb\/at\/tengwar.htm\" target=\"_blank\">hem.passagen.se<\/a><br \/>[inJvstice] this is a link to the charts laid out there<br \/>[inJvstice] for those who are interested in doing their own leg work We recommend the Appendix E, in Return of the King<br \/>[inJvstice] there the Professer lays out the Tengwar values for Quenya and English<br \/>[Raziel] could you possibly also speak a little about the other type of writing invented by Feanor, the runes (like the ones on balin&#8217;s grave and the sidebar of tornIRC)<br \/>[inJvstice] though I&#8217;ll admit the previous link has it laid out already<br \/>[inJvstice] the Tengwar are the ones invented by Feanor<br \/>[[inJvstice] The Cirth (the more nordic runes) in App. E of RotK was invented by Daeron (in Beleriand)<br \/>[Raziel] didn&#8217;t he invent two types of writing, tengwar for writing and the runes for carving?<br \/>[Raziel] oh, ok<br \/>[Raziel] thnx for the update<br \/>[inJvstice] the Sarati which can be found in HOME and at <a href=&#148;http:\/\/hem.passagen.se\/mansb\/at\/tengwar.htm\" target=\"_blank\">hem.passagen.se<\/a><br \/>[inJvstice] were invented by Rumil of Tirion (these are the ones that predate the Tengwar)<br \/>[inJvstice] the Tengwar are basically a phonetic alphabet<br \/>[inJvstice] meaning they can be used to represent sounds in any language<br \/>[inJvstice] so you can have Tengwar values for Quenya, Sindarin, English, and even Russian if you want<br \/>[inJvstice] there are some rules to adjusting the values, We&#8217;ll get into that when we acutally run a bit on Tengwar in the couple of weeks<br \/>[Estel_MM] inJvstice, what can we do to become somewhat fluent in reading and writing in elvish (particularly Quenya)? Can the Quenya tutorial be enough?<br \/>[inJvstice] though these rules are laid out in RotK<br \/>[Alorin] Excuse me for coming back to David Salos sentences again, but could you answer me why he uses the present form &#8220;pedich&#8221; in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.elvish.org\/gwaith\/movie_ttt.htm#flashback_1\" target=\"_blank\">www.elvish.org<\/a> (first line) instead of the past tense, &#8220;pennech&#8221;?<br \/>[inJvstice] no<br \/>[inJvstice] not at this point<br \/>[inJvstice] Estel the tutorial is the best source for that<br \/>[[inJvstice] unfortunalty there are not enough attested words to be completely fluent<br \/>[inJvstice] In fact Estel, We have been useing Helge&#8217;s tutorial quite extensively<br \/>[[Estel_MM] i c<br \/>[Raziel] i have noticed Sauron&#8217;s black speech has some phonetical elements from sindarin, why is that?<br \/>[[inJvstice] o.k. quick poll, what would you people like to see in the upcoming weeks<br \/>[Raziel] choices<br \/>[inJvstice] because none speaking Black Speech would use Quenya<br \/>[Raziel] figures<br \/>[Raziel] about the poll&#8230; go ask<br \/>[Haradrim] I would like to see easy, quick reference charts for the differnent Language elements<br \/>[Estel_MM] learn sentences, common sentences<br \/>[Estel_MM] sentences that we would use in english everyday<br \/>[inJvstice] o.k. we&#8217;ve got some quick reference charts for Quenya, though they are not currently posted<br \/>[<raziel] Learn more about tengwar and the grammar of Quenya<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] Grammar, sentence creation<br \/>[Guest802556911] Whatever can be found on sentence and Phrase structure in Sindarin!<br \/>[Alorin] Guest802556911 we talked about that before, there is none<br \/>[inJvstice] Estel, the likely problem with &#8216;everyday&#8217; sentances there aren&#8217;t that many &#8216;everyday&#8217; words that Tolkien gives<br \/>[inJvstice] thank you Alorin<br \/>[inJvstice] though we&#8217;ll see what we can come up with for some &#8216;everyday<br \/>[Raziel] that&#8217;s what i was going to say<br \/>[inJvstice] sentance ideas for next weekl<br \/>[Guest802556911] Sorry! must not have seen that posting! \ud83d\ude41<br \/>[Estel_MM] thanks<br \/>[Haradrim] It&#8217;s possible to extrapolate words, and they are correct in themselves, but we have no idea whether Tolkien intended for there to be another word for that or not&#8230;we just can&#8217;t know.<br \/>[inJvstice] that is true Haradrim<br \/>[Raziel] I only wish The Master was still alive<br \/>[Estel_MM] yes Raziel<br \/>[inJvstice] next week We can also try to translate your names into Elvlish<br \/>[jincey] he&#8217;d be pretty old and crotchety by now&#8230;<br \/>[Haradrim] How would you go about that?<br \/>[Alorin] I&#8217;d give 10 years of my life to him, so he could finish off Sindarin wordlists and grammars \ud83d\ude09<br \/>[Guest802556911] I like that idea.<br \/>[Estel_MM] that would be nice<br \/>[inJvstice] or out of Elvish if you prefer<br \/>[Raziel] if there was one man that deserved to be an elf&#8230;<br \/>[Haradrim] How would you go about translating names?  Do you find the root-meanings of the names and translate those, then add the correct name&#8230;isms?  How does that work\/<br \/>[inJvstice] On closing I&#8217;d like to say that The Good Professor once said that He created the languages first and Middle Earth later as a place for the languages to exist in<br \/>[Raziel] i know<br \/>[inJvstice] Haradrim, yes that is basically how it works<br \/>[Haradrim] Thank you<br \/>[inJvstice] We&#8217;ve a compiled list of such roots relating to naming in English<br \/>[inJvstice] So for next week, we&#8217;ll have an Elvish naming, some &#8216;everyday&#8217; words and phrases<br \/>[Alorin] Could you translate Gandalfs Sindarin name; Olorin, for me?<br \/>[Raziel] he created Arda at first as a Historical\/geographical\/social etc. frame for his languages but in the end wound up creating one of the most beautiful stories, no WORLDS ever told.<br \/>[Haradrim] The question is, does he have to look it up?<br \/>[inJvstice] we think Olorin is Quenya (Mithrandir is Sindarin)<br \/>[Estel_MM] lol Haradrim<br \/>[Raziel] what is Lathspell in?<br \/>[inJvstice] Olorin is connected to &#8220;olos&#8221; which means dream or vision<br \/>[[inJvstice] he spent much time in Lorien (Valinor) with Irmo<br \/>[Raziel] and that -in sufix is quenya<br \/>[inJvstice] LathSpell is old english<br \/>[Alorin] oh, ok, I was wondering where that -in came from<br \/>[Raziel] Old english, really<br \/>[Haradrim] Loads of Rohirric are taken directly from Anglo-Saxon<br \/>[Raziel] does that really mean Ill-News in old english?<br \/>[inJvstice] -in came for the came in through the &#8216;out door&#8217;   *-)<br \/>[inJvstice] yes it does Raziel Gos-spell means good news<br \/>[Raziel] it means -ish, right?<br \/>[Raziel] Kool<br \/>[inJvstice] as in gospel<br \/>[Raziel] i got it<br \/>[inJvstice] o.k. peeps, this about does it for us tonight<br \/>[Raziel] htat&#8217;s why i said kool<br \/>[Raziel] c&#8217;mon, stay some more!<br \/>[Guest802556911] cheers!  Thanks a lot!<br \/>[Alorin] Well, thanks for your time \ud83d\ude09<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] Thanks guys, will be looking forward to next week!<br \/>[inJvstice] we must consult the palantir and see of Stargate SG-1 is on<br \/>[jincey] thanks paul and kris and jeff : )<br \/>[Raziel] Namari&euml;!<br \/>[jincey] lol<br \/>[Maeglin_Lomion] \ud83d\ude42 inJvstice<br \/>[Estel_MM] well i have to go, need to finish studying for my calculus exam tomorrow, thank you inJvstice. May the stars shine upon your faces, Namarie!<br \/>[inJvstice] Namarie<br \/>[inJvstice] next week, same Barliman&#8217;s place, same Barliman&#8217;s time<br \/>[jincey] : ))<br \/>inJvstice has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Annatar] Elen sila lumenn&#8217; omentielvo\/ \/Paul, Kris, and Jeff here, we&#8217;ll be ready to start @ 8[jincey] hiya&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":17,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[138],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25580","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-old-special-reports"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1tLoH-6EA","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25580","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/17"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25580"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25580\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25580"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25580"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25580"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}