{"id":101691,"date":"2016-09-03T12:17:33","date_gmt":"2016-09-03T17:17:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/?p=101691"},"modified":"2016-09-03T12:17:33","modified_gmt":"2016-09-03T17:17:33","slug":"analysing-the-children-of-hurin-the-curse-of-morgoth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/2016\/09\/03\/101691-analysing-the-children-of-hurin-the-curse-of-morgoth\/","title":{"rendered":"Analysing The Children of H\u00farin: The Curse of Morgoth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"intro\"><figure id=\"attachment_97550\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-97550\" style=\"width: 198px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www-images.theonering.org\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Hurin-and-Morgoth-198x300.jpg\" alt=\"Hurin and Morgoth - Ted Nasmith\" width=\"198\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-97550 no-lazyload\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Hurin-and-Morgoth-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Hurin-and-Morgoth-600x909.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Hurin-and-Morgoth.jpg 634w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 198px) 100vw, 198px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-97550\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hurin and Morgoth &#8211; Ted Nasmith<\/figcaption><\/figure> This weekend Hall of Fire is delving into the third chapter of The Children of H\u00farin. (Our discussion starts at 6pm ET. Feel <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theonering.net\/torwp\/java-chat\/welcome-to-the-hall-of-fire\/\">free to join us<\/a> as we dive into Chapter 3.)<\/p>\n<h3>The Words of H\u00farin and Morgoth<\/h3>\n<p>It&#8217;s a key one, dominated by a long conversation between H\u00farin, and his captor, the Valar, Morgoth. <\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re likely to have many talking points but for me, the most pivotal is the Curse of Morgoth. Morgoth promises H\u00farin:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;upon all whom you love my thought shall weigh as a cloud of Doom, and it shall bring them down into darkness and despair. Wherever they go, evil shall arise. Whenever they speak, their words shall bring ill counsel. Whatsoever they do shall turn against them. They shall die without hope, cursing both life and death.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>What exactly is the nature of the curse of such a being? What does it mean? How does it work?<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s something Christopher Tolkien addresses fairly extensively in his forward to the novel.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The curse of such a being, who can claim that \u2018the shadow of my purpose lies upon Arda [the Earth], and all that is in it bends slowly and surely to my will\u2019, is unlike the curses or imprecations of beings of far less power.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We see that both the Doom of Mandos and the Oath of F\u00ebanor have real and lingering effects on Middle-earth. In particular, the Oath of F\u00ebanor in the Silmarillion is said to lie quiescent at several times before inevitably arising to wreak fresh havoc. The Doom of Mandos promises &#8220;unnumbered tears&#8221; and the Nirnaeth (see chapter 2) could almost be seen as the incarnation of that.<\/p>\n<p>The Curse of Morgoth appears to function similarly. The effects are not instant, nor always perceptible. But H\u00farin&#8217;s family is marred, and inexorably fall into ruin.<\/p>\n<p>Chris Tolkien goes on:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Morgoth is not \u2018invoking\u2019 evil or calamity on H\u00farin and his children, he is not \u2018calling on\u2019 a higher power to be the agent: for he, \u2018Master of the fates of Arda\u2019 as he named himself to H\u00farin, intends to bring about the ruin of his enemy by the force of his own gigantic will. Thus he \u2018designs\u2019 the future of those whom he hates&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Words such as &#8220;design&#8221;, presenting the Curse as an exercise of Morgoth&#8217;s will make me wonder &#8212; perhaps the Curse is irrevocably tied to how Morgoth eventually dispersed much of his power and will into Arda itself. 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