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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been over 12 years since some of these common Tolkien related questions have been answered, so what better time then to repost some of them for the newbies. Contained in this post are some newbie classics&#8230;.Why do the Eagles always show up at the last minute? Why did Sauron not just come forth to [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It&#8217;s been over 12 years since some of these common Tolkien related questions have been answered, so what better time then to repost some of them for the newbies. Contained in this post are some newbie classics&#8230;.Why do the Eagles always show up at the last minute? Why did Sauron not just come forth to war? Why do the Black Riders seem to be so weak? Read on&#8230;</em></p>
<p><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: helvetica, arial, 'sans serif'; font-size: x-large;"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71698" alt="FF-Nazgul-2-port" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/FF-Nazgul-2-port-300x300.jpg" width="300" height="300" />Q:</span> </b>Greetings masters of lore. My question deals with the Nazgul. I know of Khamul, but I have not found the names of the other Nazgul. If they had names, what were they as well as who were they prior to their transformation? Furthermore, is there any story about their creation and why Sauron decided to choose them specifically?</p>
<p>-Reginold</p>
<p><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: helvetica, arial, 'sans serif'; font-size: x-large;">A:</span> </b>Khamul seems to be the only named Ringwraith. What we know of him is given in the section &#8220;The Hunt for the Ring&#8221; in <i>Unfinished Tales</i> (1980). He was second to the Chief, and his name is given as Khamul the Shadow of the East. Some more about the Nazgul, or the Ulairi, can be found in some of the volumes of the History of Middle-earth, particularly in the section &#8220;The Story of Frodo and Sam in Mordor&#8221; in <i>Sauron Defeated</i> (1992), and in the work on the Appendices to <i>The Lord of the Rings </i>as printed in <i>The Peoples of Middle-earth </i>(1996). But, unfortunately, the histories of the men who became the Nazgul seems nowhere to be specifically illuminated.<br />
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-Turgon</p>
<p><b><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: arial;">Update!</span></b></p>
<p>Okay, we’ve had a number of people writing in and saying that all of the Nazgul are named in one of the Middle-earth games. Yup, we know about that. But the truth is that those names were made up by the people who created the game, not by Tolkien, so we don’t view them as authoritative. They’re simply not in Tolkien anywhere!</p>
<p>- Turgon</p>
<p><b><span style="color: #ff0000; font-family: arial;">Update!</span></b></p>
<p>A few eagle-eyed readers have noted a discrepancy between my comment above and Anwyn’s comment an answer from <a href="http://greenbooks.theonering.net/guestions/files/091299.html#gothmog">9/12/99</a>. Technically, Gothmog is described as the &#8220;Lieutenant of Morgul,&#8221; and this doesn’t tell us whether Gothmog is a Nazgûl, an Orc, or even a Man. Anwyn has interpreted that Gothmog is a Nazgûl. She may be correct, but it is not certain. In any case, a Captain can have more than one Lieutenant, so if Gothmog is a Nazgûl, and Khamul is the second to the Chief, Gothmog could have been the name of another Nazgûl.</p>
<p>- Turgon</p>
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<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-63896" alt="poster Hobbit unexpected journey mini movie Bilbo and the dwarves 16x20" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/poster-Hobbit-unexpected-journey-mini-movie-Bilbo-and-the-dwarves-16x20-240x300.jpg" width="240" height="300" />Q:</b></span> In <i>The Hobbit</i>, at the start of the quest, the dwarves believed that Gandalf was going along with them to Mount Doom [sic], 13 dwarves + 1 Gandalf = 14 in the Party; why were they worried about another member&#8230;.. and if so surely they could&#8217;ve found another greedy dwarf?</p>
<p>-John &amp; Tasha Miller</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b>A: </b></span>Actually, in <i>The Hobbit</i> the ultimate destination was not Mount Doom, but rather the Lonely Mountain, otherwise referred to as Erebor, once the seat of Thrór&#8217;s Kingdom in the North. The clearest answer regarding Bilbo&#8217;s inclusion with Thorin Oakenshield&#8217;s party is found in the pages of <i>Unfinished Tales</i> (1980). Look in Part Three: The Third Age, Section III: &#8220;The Quest of Erebor.&#8221; Here we learn of a conversation where Gandalf explains to Gimli, Frodo, Pippin &amp; Merry how he had a chance meeting with Thorin many years earlier and learned of the dwarf&#8217;s burning desire for revenge. Originally, Gandalf was not impressed with Thorin&#8217;s poorly strategized plans of making armies and war against Smaug. He meant to convince him that stealth and secrecy was his best course of action. Gandalf also had other plans of getting rid of the dragon so that Sauron would not use him as an extension of his power. The wizard himself never intended to go along with Thorin&#8217;s Quest, but he knew of a certain Hobbit that he thought would be a valuable asset.</p>
<p>&#8220;Suddenly in my mind these three things came together: the great Dragon with his lust, and his keen hearing and scent; the sturdy heavy-booted Dwarves with their old burning grudge; and the quick, soft-footed Hobbit, sick at heart (I guessed) for a sight of the wide world.&#8221;</p>
<p>The dwarves were very much against adding Bilbo to the party, especially after meeting him in person, and it took a LOT of convincing on Gandalf&#8217;s part to get Thorin to yield to his counsel.</p>
<p>&#8220;‘Listen to me, Thorin Oakenshield!’ I said. ‘If this hobbit goes with you, you will succeed. If not, you will fail. A foresight is on me, and I am warning you.’&#8221;</p>
<p>In the end, a deal was struck where Thorin reluctantly took heed of Gandalf&#8217;s urging; allowing Bilbo to accompany them in exchange for Gandalf&#8217;s temporary inclusion in the party.</p>
<p>&#8220;‘Very well,’ Thorin said at last after a silence. ‘He shall set out with my company, if he dares (which I doubt). But if you insist on burdening me with him, you must come too and look after your darling.’</p>
<p>&#8220;‘Good!’ I answered. ‘I will come, and stay with you as long as I can: at least until you have discovered his worth.’&#8221;</p>
<p>And so the inspired number of 14 was created at the last possible second. The poor hobbit was &#8220;volunteered&#8221; because of Gandalf&#8217;s unswerving conviction that Bilbo was more important than anyone foresaw, and also because of his exceptional debating skills with Dwarves. Please see <i>Unfinished Tales</i> (1980) for the full account.</p>
<p>-Quickbeam (<a href="https://twitter.com/@quickbeam2000">@quickbeam2000</a>)</p>
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<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-44710" alt="Sauron by Jerry VanderStelt" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/sauron_hi_res-209x300.jpg" width="209" height="300" />Q: </b></span>Why did Sauron never come forth himself to do war? Couldn&#8217;t he have flattened all of Minas Tirith with one outstretched hand?</p>
<p>-from the Q &amp; A Introduction</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b>A: </b></span>Perhaps. But perhaps not. Remember that without the Ring, Sauron was not at his full power. When he created the Ring, Tolkien tells us that he allowed &#8220;a great part of his own former power [to] pass into it, so that he could rule all the others.&#8221; This allotment of power to the Ring seems to have been permanent. This is evidenced by the fact that if he *could* have won the War without the Ring, he would have done so. *With* the Ring, he would have been terrifyingly unstoppable. Without it, he had perhaps half, perhaps as much as two-thirds the power he possessed in the end of the Second Age, when it took *all of the combined power of Elves and Men* to defeat him. I.E. the Last Alliance of Gil-Galad and Elendil, when both races brought out and sacrificed their best to defeat him. When at last he was defeated and the Ring stripped from him, he became crippled as regards the amount of his power. Tolkien seems to imply that he was able to nurse himself back to health somewhat when he states &#8220;always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes shape and grows again.&#8221; But it is clear that he could never return to full power without the Ring. So the conclusion is that if he could be attacked and defeated by Gil-Galad and Elendil, Elendil&#8217;s sons and the Hosts of Gil-Galad *with* the Ring, then perhaps the combined might of Gandalf, Aragorn, the Sons of Elrond, Theoden, Eomer &amp; Eowyn, Denethor&#8217;s &amp; Theoden&#8217;s armies, and Faramir… could have defeated him *without* it. I think it&#8217;s safe to say that if he could have captured Frodo and regained the Ring, we probably would have seen him make some attacks in a more personal way, but it&#8217;s as Denethor said: &#8220;He will not come save only to triumph over me when all is won. He uses others as his weapons. So do all great lords, if they are wise, Master Halfling. Or why should I sit here in my tower and think, and watch, and wait, spending even my sons?&#8221;</p>
<p>-Anwyn</p>
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<p><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71699" alt="Istari" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/310993_121176884650130_120725101361975_85832_1441609629_n-300x211.jpg" width="300" height="211" />Q: </span></b>The Istari are a council of wizards. They number 7 total but we only know about 3 of them, Saruman the White/Many colors, Gandalf the Grey/White, and Radagast the Brown. Each had their own particular abilities and interests. Who are the other 4 and what are their interests/abilities?</p>
<p>-Karl J. Jurek</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b>A: </b></span>This question has been asked by many visitors to the TheOneRing.Net. As to the Istari, only three seem to play any role in events related to <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>, Saruman the White, Gandalf the Grey, and Radagast the Brown. Saruman&#8217;s outburst at Orthanc, when he spoke of ‘the rods of the Five Wizards,’ seems to have been letting out some private information. Nowhere in <i>The Lord of the Rings </i>do we learn anything more about the two other wizards, though Tolkien seems to have considered the question on a few occasions, and come up with a few different theories. Some of Tolkien’s notes on the Istari appear in <i>Unfinished Tales </i>(1980). In one of these passages, apparently written around 1954, Tolkien named the other two as Ithryn Luin, ‘the Blue Wizards,’ who passed into the East and never returned. Some other notes indicate that they were named Alatar and Pallando. To complicate matters, some more notes are published in <i>The Peoples of Middle-earth</i>(1996), in a small section &#8220;The Five Wizards&#8221; in the section titled &#8220;Last Writings.&#8221; There Tolkien wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;No names are recorded for the two wizards. They were never seen or known in the lands west of Mordor.&#8221; In a still further note, Tolkien wrote: &#8220;The ‘other two’ came much earlier, at the same time probably as Glorfindel, when matters became very dangerous in the Second Age. Glorfindel was sent to aid Elrond and was (though not yet said) pre-eminent in the war in Eriador. But the other two Istari were sent for a different purpose. Morinehtar and Romestamo. Darkness-slayer and East-helper. Their task was to circumvent Sauron: to bring help to the few tribes of Men that had rebelled from Melkor-worship, to stir up rebellion…&#8221;</p>
<p>These various notes are very interesting, and certainly worth looking up. Plus they give as best an answer as we&#8217;ll ever know to questions about the Istari.</p>
<p>-Turgon</p>
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<p><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-71700" alt="Bill_Ferny" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Bill_Ferny.jpg" width="273" height="198" />Q: </span></b>If Samwise hated Bill Ferny so much, (bad enough to waste an apple, by throwing it at him) why then did he name the pony that he bought from Ferny, (the one he loved so much) Bill?</p>
<p>-John &amp; Tasha Miller</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b>A: </b></span>First of all, your question lies more in the realm of subjective interpretation than it does in hard black &amp; white facts. But my best interpretation is this: If you look closely at the text, Samwise does not actually refer to Bill Ferny as ‘Bill’… it seems he was using the Hobbit-ish practice of referring to an individual by the informal means of last-name-only, ‘Ferny.’ Perhaps because of his contempt for Bill Ferny we never hear Samwise give the courtesy of addressing him by first name. Several chapters later, before the Fellowship makes their departure from Rivendell, Samwise names the pony. Certainly not out of memory of Bill Ferny, but maybe because he was just fond of the name ‘Bill.’</p>
<p>-Quickbeam (<a href="https://twitter.com/@quickbeam2000">@quickbeam2000</a>)</p>
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<p>-from the Q &amp; A Introduction</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b>A: </b></span>My answer to this is in two parts: the answer that is indicated by the content, i.e., what is it about the characters that makes them this way, and secondly the fact that it constitutes a literary device that Tolkien used.</p>
<p>Part One: Yes, the Black Riders are terrifying. But what is the main strength of their image? Just that: an image. The tall, black shadow. (Please, don&#8217;t anybody jump on the George Lucas/Jar Jar Binks racism bandwagon. I am using &#8220;black&#8221; here not as a color of a person/creature, but as Darkness, or a Shadow. Evil images, not skin color.) The tall black shadow, towering over smaller creatures, intimidating. Tolkien tells us their weakness flat out. They do not see well, hardly at all, in daylight. Thus they are at the mercy of the black horses for direction and guidance much of the time. They can smell. Well and good, but it takes time to sniff out prey, and as we&#8217;ve seen, rescue or help can come in the time it takes to sniff somebody out. The five Black Riders, advancing over the lip of the dell… horrifying image. But what was the main fear? The knife. They had to rely on steel weapons just like the &#8220;good guys,&#8221; or at least until Frodo succumbed to the temptation of the Ring and became one of them, visible in their world, when they would then be able (presumably) to wrest the Ring from him by force. Again, in <i>Return of the King</i>, we see the Witch-King relying on a weapon, his mace, to kill Eowyn. So when it comes to actual physical combat, they are hampered by their limited daylight vision, and just as reliant upon weapons as any mortal. We&#8217;re not talking about Dungeons and Dragons dark mages or dark clerics here, who can cast spells with a single word. No. These are formerly mortal beings who have crossed into the spiritual realm, but are still able to wield a presence in the physical. Personally I think they&#8217;re fortunate to be able to wield the influence that they do! Now if Frodo were to put on the Ring, it would be another matter. They got him with the knife when he put it on at Weathertop, and they would have done more had not the others with their flaming brands driven them away. At that point they let them alone not because they couldn&#8217;t do more, but because they believed there was no need: the wound would overcome Frodo and all they had to do was follow, and he would fall into their hands. So spiritually, they are a horror to any rational being. Physically, they are hampered, and can be foiled with fire, rushing water, and even by broad daylight.</p>
<p>Part Two: I believe Tolkien deliberately used them this way to create a literary device by which Frodo would have no choice but to continue the journey. Everybody has to have some strong motive for leaving their home and pursuing a Quest. Desire to serve the Good is one motive, but Fear is usually stronger. With these creatures driving behind, Frodo and the gang had no choice but to continue to Rivendell or risk capture and wraith-making at the hands of the Black Riders and the Dark Lord. Since my other answer was so long, I&#8217;ll keep to that. I think it&#8217;s clear enough.</p>
<p>-Anwyn</p>
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<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b><img class="alignright  wp-image-36759" alt="TN-Bilbo_and_the_Eagles-Web" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/TN-Bilbo_and_the_Eagles-Web.jpg" width="350" height="309" />Q: </b></span>Why do the Eagles never show up until the very last minute?</p>
<p>-from the Q &amp; A Introduction</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b>A: </b></span>I must confess I stole this question from a friend of mine who was frustrated with <i>The Lord of the Rings </i>because he felt Tolkien used too much of what is known as &#8220;deus ex machina.&#8221; Basically what this means is that just as soon as we see the hero getting into a situation that looks totally inextricable, something we never knew could be part of the equation swoops in to rescue them! As I understand it, it&#8217;s based on an old technique of Greek Theater–when the hero got into trouble, they raised him out of the action in a chair, signifying that the Gods had stepped in to rescue him. Thus, &#8220;deus ex machina&#8221; or &#8220;machine of the gods.&#8221; So the Eagles, in three instances, act very much like our chair of the gods. First in the Hobbit, rescuing the party from Wargs and goblins and coming in at the last minute in the Battle of Five Armies, then in <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>, helping to win the battle before the Black Gate, and most importantly, pulling Sam and Frodo out of the lava once their Quest was complete. Not to mention Gwaihir’s little &#8220;side trips,&#8221; rescuing Gandalf from the pinnacle of Orthanc and bearing him from the top of Silvertine.</p>
<p>Now why is this, that if they were such a force to be reckoned with, that they did not come south and join the armies to begin with? Why would they only offer help when it was dire? Doesn&#8217;t it say something about their character that they would hold back until things were desperate?</p>
<p>My answer is, I readily admit, not verifiable in print. I can only offer a hypothesis that fits the facts and let you take it as you will. My opinion is this: they are animals. Talking animals, yes, but animals nonetheless. As such they are not one of the Free Peoples. Now, Tolkien&#8217;s use of animals falls into two categories: much beloved servants, such as the horses of the Rohirrim, Shadowfax and Sam&#8217;s faithful Bill. Or, they fall into the villainous category, usually in the form of giant spiders (Mirkwood and Shelob) but also the horrible carrion beasts which carried the flying Riders. (Servitude again, but for the other side.) I think the Eagles fall into this category also, kind of an antithesis to the horrible carrion creatures of the Riders. We do not know about the intelligence of these creatures. They may have been speechless animals, but they retained enough intelligence to know a foe (recall the beast &#8220;screaming&#8221; at Eowyn after she defied the Witch-King). The Eagles retain that much intelligence and much more, so that they can put forth their strength for the use of the Good when they are most needed, but perhaps know they would not fit into the grand scheme of the war as a regular force. I guess they would fall into the category of Special Forces, used as a last resort! But that is my answer, that as animals they are not one of the free peoples and their primary role is service to the Good, *when* it becomes necessary. Even Shadowfax was not in use all the time, and when Gandalf wasn&#8217;t riding him, he did not go out to war as a soldier.</p>
<p>-Anwyn</p>
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<p>Well, folks, some readers thought that I was not specific enough with my Eagles answers. There were several people who wrote in to tell me the following information, so I&#8217;m only posting a few versions. Thanks to all who wrote to clarify for me!</p>
<p>–Anwyn</p>
<p>The answer to the question of the Eagles lies in The Silmarillion. It is revealed there, that the Eagles and the Ents were both, in a sense, agents of the Valar (of one particular one, in fact, the one associated with nature-was it Yavanna? I&#8217;m at work and can&#8217;t look it up). They were created after she saw what had been done in the creation of the dwarves. So the Eagles only interfere when the Valar allow, so the deus ex machina is an appropriate analogy indeed. (There are also one or two instances where they interfere in The Silmarillion &#8211; one I recall was the rescue of Fingon-I think-from Thangorodrim.)</p>
<p>–Tim Frankovich</p>
<p>As an aside on the subject of the Eagles, and why they are usually late to the fray&#8230; Manwe‘ was the Lord and Master of the winds and the creatures of the winds, and so the appearance of the Eagles at the last minute is seen as a form of Divine intervention (the form being the Valar overriding their usual modus operandi and stepping in to influence events in Middle-earth).</p>
<p>–Tony Hillerson</p>
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<p><b><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;">Q: </span></b>Did Tolkien ever draw a detailed map of Numenor? If so does anyone out there know where its possible to find one?</p>
<p>-Aaron</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: x-large;"><b>A: </b></span>Tolkien only ever drew one sketch-map of Numenor, and Christopher Tolkien redrew it to appear in <i>Unfinished Tales </i>(1980). It&#8217;s facing page one of the Introduction in the Houghton Mifflin hardcover edition.</p>
<p>-Turgon</p>
<p><span style="color: red; font-size: medium;"><b>Update!</b></span></p>
<p>Also: For an in-depth look at Numenor and many other fantastic maps of Middle-earth, grab yourself a copy of <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0395535166/theoneringnet" target="new">The Atlas of Middle-earth</a></i> by Karen Wynn Fonstad. This book has been around for many years, but with Christopher Tolkien&#8217;s publication of The History of Middle-earth volumes, many changes were made and a new edition appeared. You&#8217;ve never seen anything so comprehensive in your life! Zillions of details from all Four Ages and across all the volumes of Tolkien&#8217;s masterworks are represented. Cartography, languages, battles, journeys, and amazing cross-sections of underground cities. I highly recommend it as a companion piece to anything you read by Tolkien, and you&#8217;ll never be lost in the woods again! The paperback edition is readily available on Amazon.com.</p>
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		<title>Confirmed: &#8216;Hobbit&#8217; filming resumes Monday</title>
		<link>http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/16/71682-confirmed-hobbit-filming-resumes-monday/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 22:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MrCere</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Adam Brown]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Benedict Cumberbatch]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Characters]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Director news]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Fran Walsh]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Graham McTavish]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hobbit Cast News]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hobbit Movie]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Luke Evans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Martin Freeman]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Peter Jackson]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Philippa Boyens]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[The Hobbit]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[There have been a smattering of reports about when filming (actually there is no film, it is all digital these days) resumes for this set of pick-ups on &#8220;The Hobbit.&#8221; TheOneRing.net can confirm (from the very best of sources) that work starts Monday, May 20 in Wellington. Everybody seems to know that a chunk of [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_71683" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/16/71682-confirmed-hobbit-filming-resumes-monday/attachment/7929314/" rel="attachment wp-att-71683"><img src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/7929314-300x200.jpg" alt="Peter Jackson talks to Graham McTavish while Martin Freeman, dressed as Bilbo Baggins, looks on." width="300" height="200" class="size-medium wp-image-71683" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Peter Jackson talks to Graham McTavish while Martin Freeman, dressed as Bilbo Baggins, looks on.</p></div>There have been a smattering of reports about when filming (actually there is no film, it is all digital these days) resumes for this set of pick-ups on &#8220;The Hobbit.&#8221; TheOneRing.net can confirm (from the very best of sources) that work starts Monday, May 20 in Wellington. Everybody seems to know that a chunk of the work to be done is for the Battle of Five Armies but it seems likely there are other things to be done as well. Often, in the editing room, where all the shooting comes together and the movie transforms from a plan into a finished product, the director (Peter Jackson in this case) or perhaps one of the screen writers (Philippa Boyens or Fran Walsh) wants something extra to flesh out a scene or a character. No details of this have been provided for this film, but that is the way movie making works. Lots of actors have reported through social media that they are returning and we know this block of filming has always been in the plans. Estimates are that up to 10 weeks of work remain to be done with bits for both &#8220;The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug,&#8221; and &#8220;The Hobbit: There and Back Again.&#8221; It seems likely that most of the principal cast will return for the segment, although not all are specifically confirmed. </p>
<p><div id="attachment_71686" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/16/71682-confirmed-hobbit-filming-resumes-monday/tumblr_mk864yec6u1s8lc2uo5_1280/" rel="attachment wp-att-71686"><img src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/tumblr_mk864yeC6U1s8lc2uo5_1280-300x227.png" alt="Benedict Cumberbatch in the Star Trek franchise." width="300" height="227" class="size-medium wp-image-71686" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Benedict Cumberbatch in the Star Trek franchise.</p></div>Meanwhile some Hobbit actors have big movies in theaters now. Benedict Cumberbatch joins the space crew in &#8220;Star Trek: Into Darkness,&#8221; this weekend while Luke Evans hops into the Fast and Furious franchise. Both are expected to be significant money makers for Hollywood and will raise the profile of both actors before they his screens in Middle-earth in December. Cumberbatch voices the highly anticipated dragon Smaug while Evans plays the enigmatic Bard The Bowman. Casting calls for those living and legally working in New Zealand have already gone out and actors, such as Adam Brown (see below) on our own weekly TORn Tuesday show talked about his return to New Zealand. It is not believed that Andy Serkis, second unit director, will not return to set which means shooting will likely be a one-unit production. More details as and when they become available.</p>
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		<title>TORN Message Boards Weekly Roundup – May 12, 2013</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 02:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grammaboodawg</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Christopher Tolkien]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Fellowship of the Ring]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hobbit Book]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[The Hobbit]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Tolkien]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[TORn Discussion Board Weekly Roundup]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to our collection of TORn&#8217;s hottest topics for the past week. If you&#8217;ve fallen behind on what&#8217;s happening on the Message Boards, here&#8217;s a great way to catch the highlights. Or if you&#8217;re new to TORn and want to enjoy some great conversations, just follow the links to some of our most popular discussions. [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; margin-bottom: .0001pt;"><i>   Want Hobbit Movie News?</i> Each week, TORN poster DanielLB ventures into the very rich and fast-moving <b>Hobbit Discussion Board</b> to collect the <b><i>Hobbit</i></b> Headlines of the Week.  Check out this week&#8217;s action <a title="here" href="http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=603217;sb=post_time;so=DESC;forum_view=forum_view_expanded;"><i>here</i></a>.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; margin-bottom: .0001pt;">   We&#8217;ll share more topics next week and hope you can join in on the conversation!  Don&#8217;t forget, TheOneRing.net&#8217;s Message Boards have over 9,600 registered Tolkien fans, just like you.  Let your voice be heard!</p>
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		<title>Collecting The Precious &#8211; United Cutlery&#8217;s The Sword of Kili</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 00:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>elessar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next great replica from our friends at United Cutlery is the Sword of Kili. This very detailed replica comes in at 28 3/8&#8243; in total length, with a high quality steel blade. The sword will come to you aged and made to look as if it was used by Kili as we&#8217;ve seen him [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/UC2952-on-Plaque.jpg"><img class="alignright  wp-image-71566" alt="UC2952 on Plaque" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/UC2952-on-Plaque-71x300.jpg" width="34" height="144" /></a>The next great replica from our friends at United Cutlery is the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7_tb6S2dqY&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">Sword of Kili</a>. This very detailed replica comes in at 28 3/8&#8243; in total length, with a high quality steel blade. The sword will come to you aged and made to look as if it was used by Kili as we&#8217;ve seen him so far in <em>The Hobbit</em> Trilogy. Like all the swords you can get from United Cutlery, this one also comes with a wall mount to make displaying this prop replica easy. You can get this sword from <a href="http://www.budk.com/product/Movies-TV-Games/Hobbit-Swords/Sword-of-Kili-from-The-Hobbit/pc/3192/c/0/sc/3511/175591.uts" target="_blank">BudK</a> for $150 for now, though this amazing item is on backorder.</p>

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		<title>Analysis: just how big is Jackson&#8217;s Smaug?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 08:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Demosthenes</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night I stumbled on this very clever post on TheOneRing.net&#8217;s boards. In it, user Skaan suggested that the promotional picture of Bilbo sprawled atop Smaug&#8217;s hoard could offer a guide to the size of Jackson&#8217;s version of Smaug (the Magnificent). How? Well, we also saw Smaug&#8217;s head buried in that selfsame pile. So the [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_71534" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/11/71530-analysis-just-how-big-is-jacksons-smaug/bilbo-smaug-skaan/" rel="attachment wp-att-71534"><img src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bilbo-smaug-skaan-300x118.png" alt="Bilbo set against Smaug by Ringer Skaan." width="300" height="118" class="size-medium wp-image-71534" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Bilbo set against Smaug by Ringer Skaan.</p></div>  Last night I stumbled on <a href="http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_threaded;post=602439;sb=post_time;so=DESC;guest=85061443">this very clever post</a> on TheOneRing.net&#8217;s boards. In it, user Skaan suggested that the promotional picture of Bilbo sprawled atop Smaug&#8217;s hoard could offer a guide to the size of Jackson&#8217;s version of Smaug (the Magnificent).</p>
<p>How?</p>
<p>Well, we also saw Smaug&#8217;s head buried in that selfsame pile. So the size of the coins gives us a basis for comparison.<span id="more-71530"></span></p>
<p>Skaan then resized the Bilbo promo figure so the coins matched across both. Just check out the picture above. And I think we can all agree that Smaug is, indeed, impressively large. </p>
<p>Then I wondered, why not take this a step further? Why not see if we can use this comparison to as precisely as we can* calculate the size of Smaug&#8217;s eye, nostril and even his entire head?</p>
<p>And then we can maybe extrapolate a little to guess the length of Erebor&#8217;s winged worm.</p>
<p><b>Establishing a base measure: how big are the coins?</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/12/10/66930-a-leisurely-jaunt-with-the-top-down-quickbeam-reviews-the-hobbit/hobbit-desolation-smaug-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-66938"><img src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/hobbit-desolation-smaug-300x181.jpeg" alt="hobbit-desolation-smaug" width="300" height="181" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-66938" /></a> This is the first and most important step. If we can&#8217;t calculate the diameter of one of those gold coins, we&#8217;re stuffed.</p>
<p>Luckily, Weta in its wisdom has told us exactly how tall they believe Bilbo is. That particular factoid was revealed through Empire last year with a chart depicting the heights of the major characters. Bilbo? He&#8217;s 1.27 metres tall, apparently. That&#8217;s 4&#8242; 2&#8243; in the old scale.</p>
<p>Aside: that&#8217;s actually a little on the tall side. In Letter #27 Tolkien notes the height of the Hobbit: &#8220;Actual size – only important if other objects are in picture – say about three feet or three feet six inches&#8221;. By clear implication he means Bilbo, but that&#8217;s an objection for another time.</p>
<p>So then, in our aforementioned picture of Bilbo sprawled on the hoard, I found myself a coin that appeared to be flat and front on. Then I roughly deep-etched it in Photoshop. Now I have a sample coin from the hoard. It&#8217;s going to be our base measure.</p>
<p>But Bilbo is all curled up there. No way to measure the coin against Bilbo there. Surely we&#8217;re stuck.</p>
<p><b>Getting Bilbo&#8217;s full height</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/11/71530-analysis-just-how-big-is-jacksons-smaug/promo-bilbo-hoard-bilbo-overlay/" rel="attachment wp-att-71540"><img src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/promo-bilbo-hoard-bilbo-overlay-208x300.jpg" alt="promo-bilbo-hoard-bilbo-overlay" width="208" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71540" /></a> Luckily Photoshop can come to the rescue again. </p>
<p>There are plenty of full-length shots of Bilbo out there. I chose the bog-standard press shot that has Bilbo leaning against his walking stick with a grey, textured background. The fact that he&#8217;s leaning forward might affect the perspective a little, but probably not too much.</p>
<p>Of course, I can&#8217;t just start using that image. How do I know this particular Bilbo is the right size? So we have to resize Promo!Bilbo to match the proportions of Hoard!Bilbo.</p>
<p>I used the spacing of the eyes as a visual guide (see image at right).</p>
<p>And, using some nifty canvas expansion, layering, and proportion-matching we can make Promo!Bilbo more or less precisely match Hoard!Bilbo. </p>
<p><b>How many coins tall is Bilbo?</b></p>
<p>Now, we can finally start stacking those coins against our standardised Bilbo in Photoshop.</p>
<p>Turns out (see image below) Bilbo is as tall as 31 of those shiny, shiny gold coins. So, with a little simple division we discover that the diameter of one of Smaug&#8217;s gold coins is 4.09 centimetres (127 divided by 31).</p>
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<p>That&#8217;s a reasonably sizeable coin, by the way. The largest of Australia&#8217;s coin denominations &#8212; the 50 cent piece &#8212; has a diameter of just a touch over three centimetres. The UK&#8217;s 50p coin is around 2.75cm and the Kiwi 50 cent coin is just a touch under 2.5cm across.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re only halfway there, though. Now we have to start looking at Hoard!Smaug.</p>
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		<title>Seattle plays host to a new Fantasy exhibit at the EMP Museum</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 05:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Garfeimao</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The EMP Museum in Seattle is just about the coolest museum ever, playing host to exhibits on Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, Icons of Science Fiction, The Art of Video Games, The Lure of Horror films, and now Fantasy: Worlds of Myth and Magic. The Fantasy exhibit just opened up a few weeks ago with loads of [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/10/71520-seattle-plays-host-to-a-new-fantasy-exhibit-at-the-emp-museum/emp-fantasy-museum/" rel="attachment wp-att-71521"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-71521" alt="EMP Fantasy museum" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/EMP-Fantasy-museum-150x150.jpg" width="150" height="150" /></a>The EMP Museum in Seattle is just about the coolest museum ever, playing host to exhibits on Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, Icons of Science Fiction, The Art of Video Games, The Lure of Horror films, and now Fantasy: Worlds of Myth and Magic. The Fantasy exhibit just opened up a few weeks ago with loads of costumes, props and interactive experiences, and one true treasure. On loan for just the first 6 months are some borrowed pages from the original manuscripts of J.R.R. Tolkien’s “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings” from Marquette University. Here are a few images of costumes from the exhibit, and in about 10 days this reporter will be visiting the museum and will post a full recap of all the things you can see and do while exploring all of the EMP Museum&#8217;s exhibits.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/10/71520-seattle-plays-host-to-a-new-fantasy-exhibit-at-the-emp-museum/emp-lion/" rel="attachment wp-att-71522"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-71522" alt="EMP Lion" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/EMP-Lion-300x199.jpg" width="300" height="199" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/10/71520-seattle-plays-host-to-a-new-fantasy-exhibit-at-the-emp-museum/emp-oz-guard/" rel="attachment wp-att-71523"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71523" alt="EMP Oz guard" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/EMP-Oz-guard-199x300.jpg" width="199" height="300" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/10/71520-seattle-plays-host-to-a-new-fantasy-exhibit-at-the-emp-museum/emp-throne/" rel="attachment wp-att-71524"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71524" alt="EMP throne" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/EMP-throne-300x215.jpg" width="300" height="215" /></a></p>
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<p>If you live in Seattle or will be visiting it in the near future, check their website for all the details on location, hours and entrance fees. The Iron Throne will be there for just the first 3 months of the exhibit, so if you wish to see either that or the Tolkien Manuscripts, plan carefully. <a href="http://www.empmuseum.org">EMP Museum</a>.</p>
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		<title>Could this be Smaug?!? &#8211; Updated</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 22:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>newsfrombree</dc:creator>
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<p><strong>Update 1:</strong> According to some sources, this is a sculptural representation of the Dragon from the cgi animated show &#8216;<em>Jane and the Dragon</em>.&#8217; The show, co-produced and created by WETA Workshop is a likely candidate for something to appear in the Roxy, but upon further review of the Dragon from the show, it looks nothing like this particular sculpture. [<a href="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Jane-and-the-Dragon_-Royal-Archives.jpg" target="_blank">seen here</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Update 2:</strong> The &#8216;beak&#8217; of this Dragon does not seem to resemble the very brief &#8216;nose&#8217; we see at the end of <em>The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey</em>. [<a href="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/EyeofSmaug_LandofShadow4.jpg" target="_blank">Seen Here</a>]</p>
<p><strong>Update 3:</strong> The largest piece of evidence that this is NOT Smaug is the fact that our phones are not ringing off the hook from official entities. That is a pretty clear indicator that we are not shedding light on something that is &#8216;top secret.&#8217; They are all probably sitting back and having a good chuckle as our fan community goes a little crazy for a few hours <img src='http://www.theonering.net/torwp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Potential Spoilers Ahead!</span></strong> We cannot imagine a scenario in which the production would release an image, or in this case, a sculpture of Smaug prematurely. Yet here we are with an image from a theater in Wellington of a large dragon statue. Here&#8217;s the full report from the Ringer Arowin:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>So, we went to the new Star Trek movie last night at Roxy Cinema here in Miramar, Wellington and when we came out a statue was sitting in the middle of the foyer which either we missed or was put there during the movie.</em><br />
<em> Not saying it&#8217;s Smaug or anything, but I took a picture for you to make your own mind up about it!</em></p>
<p><em>The statue placement is usually reserved for statues of characters from PJ films. THey&#8217;ve had TinTin, Gandalf, Gollum etc</em></p></blockquote>
<p>We are including the image after the break in case you don&#8217;t want to be spoiled and this is actually Smaug from &#8220;The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug&#8221;!</p>
<p>Do we think this is Smaug? If you look closely at the eye in the picture and compare it to the eye from the end of &#8220;An Unexpected Journey&#8221; there could be similarities, but ultimately the fact that this statue is existing for all of the public to see right now in Wellington, makes it highly unlikely this is the real thing. That would just be crazy!</p>
<p>If you are in The Roxy soon, snag some more pics and send them our way!</p>
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		<title>Tolkien Manuscripts to be Shown to Public</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marquette Libraries&#8217; Department in Milwaukee, Wisconsin has been home to the original manuscripts of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings since the late 1950s. In exciting news, the department is hosting several public showings of selected original manuscripts on certain Friday afternoons this year and next. These showings are open to the public, [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marquette Libraries&#8217; Department in Milwaukee, Wisconsin has been home to the original manuscripts of <em>The Hobbit</em> and <em>The Lord of the Rings</em> since the late 1950s. In exciting news, the department is hosting <a href="http://www.marquette.edu/library/news/2013/JRRTshowings.shtml" title="public showings" target="_blank">several public showings of selected original manuscripts</a> on certain Friday afternoons this year and next. These showings are open to the public, and no reservation is necessary. The presentations will take place at 2:30pm (Central Time) on the following dates:</p>
<p>May 17, 2013<br />
July 19, 2013<br />
September 13, 2013<br />
November 15, 2013<br />
January 17, 2014<br />
March 7, 2014<br />
May 16, 2014<br />
July 11, 2014<br />
September 12, 2014<br />
November 21, 2014</p>
<p>The presentations will be held in the Prucha Archives Reading Room (3rd floor, Raynor Library) and will run approximately 45 minutes. For more information on the archive and presentation, you can visit <a href="http://www.marquette.edu/library/archives/tolkien.shtml" title="The J.R.R. Tolkien Collection" target="_blank">the J.R.R. Tolkien Collection&#8217;s website</a>.</p>
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		<title>Tolkien’s Greatest Hits &#8211; The Most Impressive Wordplay from our Favorite Author</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is one of the first things you learn in the craft of writing. Mediocre dialogue is instantly forgotten–but brilliant dialogue lives forever in the mouth of your audience. You know those finely crafted little moments you always remember from a movie or play? Even if you don’t see the performers again the brightest or [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright  wp-image-71448" alt="Frodo_havens" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/jrr-tolkien-library-hero.jpg" width="240" height="240" />It is one of the first things you learn in the craft of writing. Mediocre dialogue is instantly forgotten–but brilliant dialogue lives forever in the mouth of your audience.</p>
<p>You know those finely crafted little moments you always remember from a movie or play? Even if you don’t see the performers again the brightest or funniest quips will linger on. The best movie dialogue has a way of becoming oft-heard bon mots relished among water cooler conversation.</p>
<p>The same goes for literature but often in broader measure. The most impressive wordplay remains within your psyche long after you put the book down. When the rubber meets the road, it’s how a great writer is elevated above the ordinary herds.</p>
<p>Indeed one of the first things you learn about J.R.R. Tolkien is that his work is ripe with just such powerful language. His wonderful ability to play with tone, color, and emotion made it easy for me to select the following from <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>. These are my favorite one-liners (or two-liners), that stand out as having a striking impact. Consider this collection a literary sampler akin to &#8220;Tolkien’s Greatest Hits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lord knows that the Professor himself would frown upon the idea, yet I present them playfully and respectfully. Whenever I read and encounter these moments I am forever impressed with intensity, humor, or remembrance.</p>
<p>* * * * * * * * * * * * *</p>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71440" alt="Frodo_havens" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Frodo_havens-300x242.jpg" width="300" height="242" /><strong>Most bittersweet line:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I have quite finished, Sam,&#8221; said Frodo. &#8220;The last pages are for you.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Best exclamation of joy:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Ass! Fool! Thrice worthy and beloved Barliman!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most perfect description of beauty:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Young she was and yet not so. The braids of her dark hair were touched by no frost; her white arms and clear face were flawless and smooth, and the light of stars was in her bright eyes, grey as a cloudless night; yet queenly she looked, and thought and knowledge were in her glance, as of one who has known many things that the years bring.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most poetic description of the weather:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>The weather was grey and overcast, with wind from the East, but as evening drew into night the sky away westward cleared, and pools of faint light, yellow and pale green, opened under the grey shores of cloud. There the white rind of the new Moon could be seen glimmering in the remote lakes.</p></blockquote>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71441" alt="gandalf_falling" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/gandalf_falling-300x140.jpg" width="300" height="140" /><strong>Most shocking moment:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>But even as it fell it swung its whip, and the thongs lashed and curled about the wizard’s knees, dragging him to the brink. He staggered and fell, grasped vainly at the stone, and slid into the abyss.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most gruesome encounter:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Then Pippin stabbed upwards, and the written blade of Westernesse pierced through the hide and went deep into the vitals of the troll, and his black blood came gushing out.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most colorful analogy:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Troubles follow you like crows, and ever the oftener the worse.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Best example of friendly competition:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Forty-two, Master Legolas!&#8221; he cried.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most powerful moment of rage:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Then he charged. No onslaught more fierce was ever seen in the savage world of beasts, where some desperate small creature armed with little teeth, alone, will spring upon a tower of horn and hide that stands above its fallen mate.</p></blockquote>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71442" alt="bombadil" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bombadil-300x223.jpg" width="300" height="223" /><strong>Best invitation to dinner:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;You shall come home with me! The table is all laden with yellow cream, honeycomb, and white bread and butter.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Wittiest rejoinder:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><b>Saruman-</b> &#8221;For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colors!&#8221;<br />
<b>Gandalf-</b> &#8221;I liked white better.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Spookiest moment:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Farmer Cotton found Frodo lying on his bed; he was clutching a white gem that hung on a chain about his neck and he seemed half in a dream. &#8220;It is gone forever,&#8221; he said, &#8220;and now all is dark and empty.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most gothic description of evil:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Paler indeed than the moon ailing in some slow eclipse was the light of it now, wavering and blowing like a noisome exhalation of decay, a corpse-light, a light that illuminated nothing.</p></blockquote>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71443" alt="Denethor" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/tumblr_mdrn1y2VGH1qd1rs9-300x199.jpg" width="300" height="199" /><strong>Most shrewd political advice:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;He uses others as his weapons. So do all great lords, if they are wise, Master Halfling.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Single best piece of advice:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Single funniest line:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;…What’s taters, precious, eh, what’s taters?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Funniest exchange between two characters:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><b>Éomer-</b> &#8221;…For there are certain rash words concerning the Lady in the Golden Wood that lie still between us. And now I have seen her with my eyes.&#8221;<br />
<b>Gimli- </b>&#8220;Well, lord, and what say you now?&#8221;<br />
<b>Éomer-</b> &#8221;Alas! I will not say that she is the fairest lady that lives.&#8221;<br />
<b>Gimli-</b> &#8221;Then I must go for my axe.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71444" alt="2238536-pippin_sad_2" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/2238536-pippin_sad_2-300x242.jpg" width="300" height="242" /><strong>Most beautiful dream sequence:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>As he fell slowly into sleep, Pippin had a strange feeling: he and Gandalf were still as stone, seated upon the statue of a running horse, while the world rolled away beneath his feet with a great noise of wind.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most enigmatic historical allusion:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Fair was she who long ago wore this on her shoulder. Goldberry shall wear it now, and we will not forget her!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Strongest statement of gender equality:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most romantic kiss:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>And he took her in his arms and kissed her under the sunlit sky, and he cared not that they stood high upon the walls in the sight of many.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most exciting call of alarm:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>AWAKE! FEAR! FIRE! FOES! AWAKE!</p></blockquote>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71445" alt="mordor2" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/mordor2-300x228.jpg" width="300" height="228" /><strong>Most intimidating description of geography:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>Ever and anon the furnaces far below its ashen cone would grow hot and with a great surging and throbbing pour forth rivers of molten rock from chasms in its sides. Some would flow blazing towards Barad-dûr down great channels; some would wind their way into the stony plain, until they cooled and lay like twisted dragon-shapes vomited from the tormented earth.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most beautiful sunset:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>But in front a thin veil of water was hung, so near that Frodo could have put an outstretched arm into it. It faced westward. The level shafts of the setting sun behind beat upon it, and the red light was broken into many flickering beams of ever-changing colour. It was as if they stood at the window of some elven-tower, curtained with threaded jewels of silver and gold, and ruby, sapphire and amethyst, all kindled with an unconsuming fire.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most insidious falsehood:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Our friendship would profit us both alike. Much we could still accomplish together, to heal the disorders of the world.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most spectacular moment of destruction:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Towers fell and mountains slid; walls crumbled and melted, crashing down; vast spires of smoke and spouting steams went billowing up, up, until they toppled like an overwhelming wave, and its wild crest curled and came foaming down upon the land.</p></blockquote>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71446" alt="eowyn" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/eowyn-300x175.jpg" width="300" height="175" /><strong>Most moving speech on the battlefield:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Éowyn I am, Éomund’s daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you if you touch him.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most Shakespearean dialogue:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed for myself,&#8221; said Denethor. &#8220;Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse lay yet in the dregs?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Most wonderful hobbit irony:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Then there was Lobelia. …and there was such clapping and cheering when she appeared, leaning on Frodo’s arm but still clutching her umbrella, that she was quite touched, and drove away in tears. She had never in her life been popular before.</p></blockquote>
<p><i><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71447" alt="quickbeam" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/quickbeam-210x300.jpg" width="210" height="300" /><strong>Two moments that surely inspired the 60’s hippie counter-culture:</strong></i></p>
<blockquote><p>1. &#8220;Cast off these cold rags! Run naked on the grass, while Tom goes a-hunting!&#8221; … The hobbits ran about for a while on the grass, as he told them.</p>
<p><b>and</b></p>
<p>2. All that day they walked about in the woods with him, singing, and laughing; for Quickbeam often laughed. … Whenever he saw a rowan-tree he halted a while with his arms stretched out, and sang, and swayed as he sang.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Passage of utmost triumphant rapture:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>And he sang to them, now in the Elven-tongue, now in the speech of the West, until their hearts, wounded with sweet words, overflowed, and their joy was like swords, and they passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together and tears are the very wine of blessedness.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><i>Line that always, always makes me weep uncontrollably:</i></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>There still he stood far into the night, hearing only the sigh and murmur of the waves on the shores of Middle-earth, and the sound of them sank deep into his heart.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Many of you certainly have your own take on what qualifies as the &#8220;most humorous,&#8221; &#8220;most shocking,&#8221; etc., and that’s fine too. This pursuit is a matter of taste, perhaps, but you cannot deny the foundation: Professor Tolkien showed his passion on every page, with every turn of phrase. Of his labors he wrote in a 1950 letter to Milton Waldman:</p>
<blockquote><p>… It was begun in 1936, and every part has been written many times. Hardly a word in its 600,000 or more has been unconsidered. And the placing, size, style, and contribution to the whole of all the features, incidents, and chapters has been laboriously pondered.</p></blockquote>
<p>No better insight can be given towards understanding the perfection of his tastes in authorship. Here is the major facet that most assuredly elevates him and his body of work. We, his eager readership, are indeed blessed with his remarkable and thoroughly romantic word craft.</p>
<p>Much too hasty,</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s in a Name: Translating Proper Nouns in THE HOBBIT</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his first of many articles for our worldwide community, Tedoras, long-time audience participant on our TORn TUESDAY webcast brings us an illuminating discussion on something that fascinates the inner-linguist in us all: taking the very Euro-centric names and words Tolkien invented and reforming them into other languages! How do foreign-language translators deal with Tolkien&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/05/71399-whats-in-a-name-translating-proper-nouns-in-the-hobbit/chinesebookcover/" rel="attachment wp-att-71406"><img class="alignright  wp-image-71406" alt="ChineseBookcover" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ChineseBookcover.jpg" width="270" height="368" /></a>In his first of many articles for our worldwide community, Tedoras, long-time audience participant on our <a href="http://www.theonering.net/live">TORn TUESDAY</a> webcast brings us an illuminating discussion on something that fascinates the inner-linguist in us all: taking the very Euro-centric names and words Tolkien invented and reforming them into other languages! How do foreign-language translators deal with Tolkien&#8217;s legendarium? Read on for some keen insights! Take it away, Tedoras&#8230;.</p>
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<p>By Tedoras &#8212; special to TheOneRing.net</p>
<p>In recent years, and especially following the release of the first installment of <i>The Hobbit</i> films, Latin America and China have both become major sources of Tolkien fandom.  While we often associate the works of Tolkien with the English-speaking world, the international nature of modern Ringerdom cannot be ignored.  The Spanish and Chinese-speaking markets have undeniably helped in making <i>An Unexpected Journey</i> the fourteenth highest grossing film of all time.  An historical challenge with Tolkien’s works, however, is how best to translate them. Whether in film or literature, translators have struggled and debate for years on how translate the names of people and places without losing the original sound and meaning that the Professor clearly intended. The process of de-anglicizing these nouns is further complicated because not only must English-language etymology be considered, but also that of Middle-earth’s many distinct tongues.</p>
<p>In Middle-earth, we find a strong correlation between sound and meaning that is particularly evident in the context of “soft” or “hard/harsh” names.  For example, the word “Shire” conjures up visions of a distinctly British pastoral community — in essence, one notes a favorable and pleasant sense simply from reading the word. In contrast, “Dol Guldur” is composed of hard consonants and more guttural vowels which denote a rather negative air.  Another popular theme is the use of alliteration; it is no mere coincidence that Bilbo Baggins lives in Bag End. As you will see, the biggest problem in translating proper nouns is deciding whether to maintain the original sound or meaning intended by the author, when often both cannot be kept.</p>
<p>It just so happens that Chinese and Spanish are two languages I study, so, in homage to the large Latin American and Chinese Tolkien-fan base around the world, I have decided to present some translations of proper nouns from <i>The Hobbit</i>. While these translations certainly highlight the many different ways Tolkien’s works can be translated, they also provide some important insight into Middle-earth (and some unintended laughs along the way).</p>
<p><em>I first present some Spanish translations of proper names.</em></p>
<p>These translations reflect an effort to keep the original meaning of a word, rather than its sound.  However, because of its close relationship with English, Spanish allows for the pronunciation of many words in their original form.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Bilbo Bolsón</span></strong></p>
<p>This is of course our favorite hobbit, Bilbo Baggins. Interesting here is the translation of the surname.  In Spanish, “bolsón” is the augmentative form of “bolsa,” which literally means “bag.”  A “bolsón” is simply a large bag or backpack, yet in translation it is used to convey the “bag” in Baggins.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Bardo el Arquero</span></strong></p>
<p>Bard the Bowman is, in Spanish, literally Bard the Archer. In this case, we note a loss of alliteration in translation. It may seem trivial, but alliteration very much shapes how we view a character. The strong “b” sound in Bard’s English title provides him with a bold, confident aura. In a way, the Spanish version tries to make up for this loss by means of assonance and the repetition of the “o” in Bardo and “Arquero.”</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Guille Estrujónez</span></strong></p>
<p>Bill Huggins is one of our favorite trolls. His surname is of particular interest; in the translation, we find the Spanish word “estrujón,” literally “squeeze/press” or “bear hug.” There are two aspects to this translation: first, if we take the “bear hug” approach, then you will notice how “hug” is also present in his English surname (Huggins); and secondly, from the Spanish name one is immediately aware that this character must be strong and large.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Piedra del Arca</span></strong></p>
<p>The Arkenstone can be interpreted many ways in Spanish. “Arca” can refer to a chest (as in of treasure) or to an ark (as in Noah’s). Either translation lends an antiquarian, more mystical nature to the stone.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/05/71399-whats-in-a-name-translating-proper-nouns-in-the-hobbit/spanish_hobbit_ilustrado/" rel="attachment wp-att-71409"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-71409" alt="Spanish_hobbit_ilustrado" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Spanish_hobbit_ilustrado.jpg" width="243" height="320" /></a>La Comarca</span></strong></p>
<p>In Spanish, the Shire is known rather literally as a “region” or “province”. This name was translated out of necessity, for in Spanish the “sh” sound does not typically exist. Personally, I find this name lacking of the novelty of “Shire.”</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Bolsón Cerrado</span></strong></p>
<p>The Spanish name for “Bag End” is rather odd. We find Bilbo’s surname used to represent the “Bag” in his aforementioned smial, but where one expects to find “end” there is the Spanish “cerrado” (literally “closed”). I am at a loss as to how to properly account for his translation; I will note, however, that the name flows much better as translated than if any variant of “end” had been used instead.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Montañas Nubladas</span></strong></p>
<p>I find the Spanish name for the Misty Mountains very descriptive. Of note here is “nubladas” (literally, “cloudy/overcast”, from “nube” cloud). While “misty” and “cloudy” both denote mystery, the Spanish name is particularly foreboding; the verb “nublar” means “to darken/to cloud” and has a negative and ominous connotation in Spanish. This is of course an apt warning of the Misty Mountains.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Lago Largo</span></strong></p>
<p>The Spanish version of the “Long Lake” is very evocative of its English translation. Both exhibit an alliterative nature and are composed of two one-syllable words. This is, perhaps, exemplary of an ideal translation, if ever there were such a thing, as neither an ounce of meaning nor sound is lost.</p>
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<p><em>Next I present some Chinese translations of proper names.</em></p>
<p>Before continuing, however, I must note a few important characteristics of the Chinese language for those who have no experience with it. Unlike Spanish, Chinese is much more concerned with the preservation of sound. The Chinese have a long tradition of translating words such that they are phonetically similar to their native language-form. Here are two examples: first, the Chinese name for Germany is <i>deguo</i> (<i>de</i>, because of the German <i>Deutschland</i>, and <i>guo</i> meaning “country/nation”). While the character <i>de</i> has literal meaning (“virtues” or “ethics”), in this context it is used simply because it sounds like the “de” in <i>Deutschland</i>. Another example is the translation of the English name Michael; the Chinese form, <i>maike</i>, literally means something along the lines of “overcome wheat”. Yet, again, the Chinese in this instance forgo meaning in favor of sound. Thus, as you will see, the majority of translations involve preserving sound in Chinese. Yet looking at what potential literal translations of the names yield is a rather funny and interesting task.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/05/71399-whats-in-a-name-translating-proper-nouns-in-the-hobbit/chinesehobbitcharacters/" rel="attachment wp-att-71402"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-71402" alt="ChineseHobbitcharacters" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ChineseHobbitcharacters.jpg" width="151" height="150" /></a><strong>#1 (huo bi te ren)</strong></p>
<p>This is the Chinese form of “hobbit.” It can literally be translated as “quickly compare special people.” This name, oddly enough, recognizes one truth: the unique and special nature of hobbits. Whether conveyance of this meaning was intended or not by the translator, I am not sure, though.</p>
<p><strong>#2 (gu lu mu)</strong></p>
<p>As you might have guessed, this is Gollum in Chinese. The literal meaning of this name is very odd: it can be translated as “nanny guru.” It does imply Gollum is old (which is true) and beholding of some secret knowledge, as a guru is (also, perhaps, true).</p>
<p><strong>#3 (zhong tu shi jie)</strong></p>
<p>The Chinese name for Middle-earth is an example where meaning is carried over sound. It literally means “middle earth/soil world”. However, another translation of “zhong1 tu3” is “Sino-Turkish,” though, of course, that is not the intended meaning.</p>
<p><strong>#4 (bierbo bajinsi)</strong></p>
<p>This is Bilbo Baggins—and a very difficult name to translate, too. The first name cannot really be translated at all. However, the surname is quite interesting; one translation could be “long for gold” which, although perhaps not applicable to Bilbo himself, is a rather pertinent note on the story as a whole.</p>
<p><strong>#5 (gan dao fu)</strong></p>
<p>As it sounds, this is Gandalf. The translation I like most for his name is “willing path man,” for, as we know, Gandalf is an instinctive wanderer; they do call him The Grey Pilgrim, after all.</p>
<p><strong>#6 (si mao ge)</strong></p>
<p>Smaug’s name is also very apt for his character. I translate this name as “careless spear,” which reflects his wantonly destructive nature.</p>
<p><strong>#7 (you an mi lin)</strong></p>
<p>The Chinese form of Mirkwood is another rare instance where meaning is favored over sound. This name literally means “gloomy jungle.” The dark and ominous connotation of the Chinese form is, in my opinion, much more powerfully negative than even the original English.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/05/05/71399-whats-in-a-name-translating-proper-nouns-in-the-hobbit/the-hobbit-chinese-name/" rel="attachment wp-att-71410"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-71410" alt="The-Hobbit-Chinese-Name" src="http://www-images.theonering.org/torwp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/The-Hobbit-Chinese-Name.png" width="350" height="200" /></a>#8 (tuo er jin)</strong></p>
<p>Lastly, I decided to include Tolkien’s Chinese name because it is oddly appropriate for the Professor. The name can be translated as “entrusting you with gold,” which I interpret in two ways: first, this can be seen as a reference to The One Ring, and, second, it can refer to Tolkien’s gift of his writings to us (his literary “gold,” if you will). Again, any intent on the part of the translator is impossible to know.</p>
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		<title>Today in Middle-earth, May 1</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following event(s) took place in Middle-earth on May 1st: Gandalf and Bilbo reach Rivendell (1342) Sarn Ford where Gandalf and Aragorn met (1418) Crowning of King Elessar (1419) Elrond and Arwen set out from Rivendell (1419) Samwise marries Rose (1420) May 1, 2942 (S.R. 1342) 1. Gandalf and Bilbo reach Rivendell. (from Karen Wynn [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>The following event(s) took place in Middle-earth on May 1<sup>st</sup>:</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span id="more-28774"></span><strong>May 1, 2942 (S.R. 1342)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>1. Gandalf and Bilbo reach Rivendell.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>(from Karen Wynn Fonstad, <em>The Atlas of Middle-earth</em>)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&#8220;It was on May the First that the two came back at last to the brink of the valley of Rivendell, where stood the Last (or the First) Homely House. &#8220;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Tolkien, 1965 Ballantine, p. 279 Hobbit)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong> </strong><strong>May 1, 3018 (S.R. 1418)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>1. Sarn Ford where Gandalf and Aragorn met</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>(not from the appendices)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&#8220;Strider looked grave. &#8216;I do not know,&#8217; he said. &#8216;I came west with him in the spring. I have often kept watch on the borders of the Shire in the last few years, when he was busy elsewhere.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Tolkien, 1965 Ballantine, p. 234 FotR)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <strong>May 1, 3019 (S.R. 1419)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>1. Crowning of King Elessar.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>(from the appendices)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong></strong>&#8220;&#8230;upon the White Tower of the citadel the standard of the Stewards, bright argent like snow in the sun, bearing no charge nor device, was raised over Gondor for the last time.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Tolkien, 1965 Ballantine, p. 302-304 RotK)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>2. Elrond and Arwen set out from Rivendell.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>(from the appendices-no text)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On the day Aragorn entered the City to claim his kingship, a great Company departed from Rivendell to journey to the south.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>May 1, 3020 (S.R. 1420)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>1. Samwise marries Rose.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>(from the appendices)</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&#8220;&#8216;It&#8217;s Rosie, Rose Cotton,&#8217; said Sam. &#8216;It seems she didn&#8217;t like my going abroad at all, poor lass….&#8221;</p>
<p>(Tolkien, 1965 Ballantine, p. 376 RotK)</p>
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