[Demosthenes] Next scene: Tauriel looking highly distraught. Snow-covered ground.
[DuBekar] Dead Kili.
[smaugth3drag0n] Hey guys, if you watch the trailer at 0.5 speed, you can actually see the full arrow at 1:44. It is a normal arrow. Very strange/
[Demosthenes] I have an alternate theory
[butterfly] I don’t think it’s Kili
[perry] Can we isolate where we think snow will be? Everywhere? Just Dale?
[Demosthenes] Post-Thranduil remorse.
[Rantsu] ^that
[AzogTheDefiler] Who else would it be besides Kili
[Papagianni] but i don’t thing she;s holding anybody,shes hurt!!!
[butterfly] I think she’s holding her knee, and her legs are to the side
[DuBekar] Makes sense.
[jenniearcheo] Tauriel appears to be fighting Bolg.
[Demosthenes] she does not have her bow
[DuBekar] Yeah, those are her boots. She’s not holding anyone.
[thatJustin] do you think PJ will intercut two deaths
[butterfly] Those ain’t Dwarf boots
[perry] true. Not dwarf boots. Either Legolas or her own legs.
[AmydaughterofBev] I agree. Her boots…seems to be holding a wound she sustained.
[Demosthenes] I feel it could be a reverse cut post the scene where Thranduil attacks her.
[jenniearcheo] She’s looking up at Thranduil in remorse?
[Demosthenes] Quite possibly
[Papagianni] Demosthenes not the same scenery though
[DuBekar] Or off into the distance, likely as not.
[Demosthenes] It’s a tight shot. hard to tell.
[AzogTheDefiler] I think that is probably Ravenhill not Dale
[Demosthenes] If I was to argue against my theory, i would point out the snow does not appear to be fresh
[smaugth3drag0n] The look on her face is just crushing. We never saw her this vulnerable in DOS.
[Demosthenes] which would point to Ravenhill not Dale.
[smaugth3drag0n] Could she be crying over Kili’s dead body?
[butterfly] It’s not Kili! We just disputed that
[jenniearcheo] In the books, Fili and Kili die defending Thorin.
[Papagianni] i think she looks at Legolas
[AzogTheDefiler] Maybe Bolg kills Kili and Legolas starts fighting him and she goes to Kili
[smaugth3drag0n] My bad.
[Demosthenes] Maybe Leggy just dumped her.
[Papagianni] they both fight bol
[jenniearcheo] heh
[smaugth3drag0n] lol. Good one, Dem.
[jenniearcheo] “I saw you having stone with that dwarf.”
[DuBekar] Alternately… maybe she’s lamenting the destruction of Laketown. Maybe one of Bard’s kids gets killed in the attack and she blames herself for not protecting them.
[AmydaughterofBev] Hahahaha!
[butterfly] No, not the kids!!!
[perry] Dumped, but in a real sense – maybe, after the conflict with Thranduil, he cuts her loose, disavows her, ends the friednship.
[smaugth3drag0n] In a PJ movie, all the kids live.
[Demosthenes] Could it be a continuance of the scene just after where Bolg hurls her against a wall?
[jenniearcheo] Breaks the bow
[Papagianni] Maybe Kili died and she looks at Legolas like –
[AzogTheDefiler] The kids wont die there was a picture of them looking at Lake Town from the sore
[Demosthenes] That’s another option
[DuBekar] Maybe Legolas kills Kili…
[Demosthenes] as in post-fight resolution
[AmydaughterofBev] Oh! I had not thought of the kids being harmed. I assumed she and the remaining dwarves would have saved them.
[AzogTheDefiler] +shore
[smaugth3drag0n] Wow. We are reaaaaaallllly out there now.;
[jenniearcheo] Yeah, the teaser trailer showed them okay
[perry] I think it’s too much of a giveaway for the trailer to show Tauriel crying over kili’s death.
[jenniearcheo] Surely they’d been sent a safe distance from the impending battle
[jenniearcheo] Yeah, I think this is the argument with Thranduil, is all
[AmydaughterofBev] Indeed…behind the base camp.
[perry] Vard says they will not die if he kills the dragon first – and he does. So they live.
[smaugth3drag0n] Perry, what was the first shot of the very first trailer for BOTFA? Quite revealing there with Bilbo.
[jenniearcheo] And then they cut to the Tauriel/Bolg fight
[Demosthenes] You don’t think it’s post-Bolg then?
[AzogTheDefiler] Where are all the woman and children refugees during the battle anyway?
[jenniearcheo] On the shore, one assumes
[perry] I don;t remember
[smaugth3drag0n] The shores seem the most logical.
[perry] Oh. Bilbo weeping.
[Papagianni] maybe she cries because she hasn’t beel that physically hurt before
[Papagianni] been*
[jenniearcheo] Legolas getting jiggy with the double swords
[perry] She doesn’t belong anywhere.
[Demosthenes] Papagianni: if she was really hurt by bolg … maybe
[Papagianni] yeah
[AmydaughterofBev] She has got to feel a torrent of emotions.
[AzogTheDefiler] They cant be in the shore, the army from Dol Guldur comes from the south they would run into them
[Demosthenes] Being thrown against a wall can’t be fun. even if you’re a final fantasy hero.
[jenniearcheo] And then a weird flash of pre-Smaug Laketown
[Demosthenes] Are we moving on then?
[jenniearcheo] I’m sure she’s at least badly bruised after that
[AzogTheDefiler] Yes
[butterfly] Thorin amongst the gold
