The trailer for TTT has just come out in Japan, and once again Japanese fans are full of dread at the way the subtitles are mis-representing Tolkien and the script as Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens intended it to be understood.
Sam : “Wonder if this is the way Gandalf meant?”
Frodo: “Everything is unpredictable.”
“This is a Zen dialogue, not a translation at all,” exclaims a fan leader….[More]
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Last month Japanese fans were relieved to see the subtitles in FotR DVD were repaired considerably to what they had been in the film version. Now they are tortured again.
“On October 18th, the new TTT trailer was released by the Japanese distributor on the Web. Dubbed version was good, but those who love the actors’ own real voices chose the other version with subtitles—and they found a familiar frustration. [Eowyn says] “Preparations? Warning?” No viewer can possibly imagine Eowyn here is really saying, “They were unarmed. They had no warning.”
Another example. Sam : Wonder if this is the way Gandalf meant? (Note that “We’re lost” is eliminated) Frodo: Everything is unpredictable. “This is a Zen dialogue, not a translation at all,” exclaims an ex-leader of Petition for Better Subtitles in FotR. What’s in Frodo’s mind here is the tragic fall of Gandalf, but these subtitles ignore it. Such were the lines that filled FotR when seen in theaters. And Nippon Herald, the distributor, declares that the same subtitler will stay in her position.
A group of fans have started preparing a new petition. “How we wish we didn’t have to do this,” says another leader. “All we ask is: Just show us what is being said. Why should it be so difficult?”
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LOTR activities [or lack thereof] in Norway, Denmark and Rumania. When do we get to see the FOTR DVD in Rumania? ask the fans. [More]
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Merry Tee reports from Denmark, ” I just recieved an official mail from SF Film (the Danish distribution of TTT) saying that ticket sales for the premiere will start here November 11. The mail also tells us that FOTR wil be on the big screen here again from December 13.”
Greetings from Norway: A fan’s-eye perspective of the build-up to TTT, from Tolkien-Freak-Girl:
“I’m really sorry about my bad english today, it’s just that I’m so excited for the moment that I can hardly move my fingers!!!!!
“You should se what the Norwegian Cinema Crew has done for the fans. They have actually created a Middle-Earth-ish, Hobbitonlike queue area, in a grand park outside the cinema.
“We are being met with a great tower at the entrance, and inside there are wraiths, elves, horses, sheeps (hihi), music, competitions, nights where we all gather and sing Tolkien-songs, fireplaces and here’s the best!! On the 3. of november (the last night) they will show The FOTR on a big screen in the park, together with all the TTT trailers!!!!!!!
“Are we lucky to live in Norway or what?! :)))
“And the biggest thing: The person with the best costume and “livingplace” (in the queue, if you see what I mean) wins a trip to NewZealand for two…..”
Meanwhile fans in Rumania are MUCH less happy. In fact they sound pretty bitter.
Radu writes, ” Hi. I write this to let you know of the disapointment and anger we Lord Of The Rings fans in Romania. (I’m speaking for a group of people – but I know it’s the same thing in all our hearts).
“First,the Two Towers are only getting here in 28 February (!!!!!!!!!); second-there was no launch of the DVD or tape yet of The Fellowsip. I don’t know who to blame or what to say more, but please does anyone have some data about what’s going on in here – a least an aprox. date on the tape’s launching here.. ps.. The Two Towers Trailer was here today, but…surprise-surprise……[it was] the old one-released in spring..”
So there you have it. Anyone that’s in touch with the New Line distributors for Rumania, tell us what’s going on, please!
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A guess about the opening scene of TTT, tantalisingly described in scr[i]pt magazine below…[More] Film Spoiler, don’t look if you want to stay pure…
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Any guesses on what the ‘big plunge’ might be that’s described as the breathtaking, amazing opening to TTT? It’s mentioned in this article on the TTT script?
My favourite guess so far from Eddie: ‘Gandalf and the Balrog falling”
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